Jonathan,

 

Wittgenstein said philosophy does not solve problems it makes them
disappear.  This is Zen it does not solve problems but it does make them
disappear.

Five shots of Jack Daniels does not solve problems either, but it sure does
make them disappear.  Does that make Jack Daniels and philosophy and zen all
the same?  'Philosophy' originally meant 'love of wisdom' but is now
popularly defined as ".the study of the nature and principles of knowledge,
truth, existence, and moral and aesthetic values"*.  That is not a
definition of zen.

In that they are no longer my problems but a problem in Zen philosophy.

There is no such thing as 'Zen philosophy'.  Zen does not promote the study
of wisdom or knowledge.  There may be philosophies about zen, but they are
not part of zen teaching itself.  Also, I think when it was said that zen
[and even Wittgenstein's philosophy] makes problems 'disappear', I don't
think either meant they are just moved from one place [mine] to another [zen
philosophy].  It means they cease to exist - anywhere.  As far as zen is
concerned problems 'disappear' because they are seen to be illusions.  I
don't know what happens to them in Wittgenstein's philosophy.  Maybe they
are sent to France.

How can philosophy be nerotic?  It is something you do not something you
are.  Philosophy is then nothing that can be neurotic.

You're right here - but no one said 'philosophy is neurotic'; they said
philosophy was a 'neurosis'.  Neurosis is ".any of several functional
disorders of the mind that are apparently not caused by any injury to the
brain and are manifested by depression, phobias, compulsions, and the
like"*.  The person practicing philosophy might be said to be 'neurotic' if
that practice caused any of the manifestations listed above.  'Compulsions'
would be the one closest to the prior discussions, being a distant cousin of
'attachment'.

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Gassho.Bill!

  

--Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I think it's obvious there's nothing
wrong with intellect (or
emotions) per se. You need to think well to live well.

I've always found "non-attachment" too abstract. "Attachment" is
difficult to visualize.

The image of a hand not grasping, letting go, I can understand
and use.


--Michael


--- Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> . and even our own Bill suggests that: "Human intellect is not
> forbidden
> fruit in zen as many believe.  It is a natural human attribute
> and should
> not be demonized."
>  
> As you suggest Ian, I think it is the non-attachment that is
> the essential
> message.
>  
> DC
>  



            
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