I think what Bill meant to say is that for the WebGUI there is no official 
repository like for projects, say, branching FreeBSD.

But Bill, the underlying O/S and parts of the system are all open source (such 
as pen and ucarp, for example).
While Zen may not feature a conventional repository, you can find all the 
source on the installation.
I think Emilios has already offered to merge changes should you make any that 
seem to be useful for everyone else.
While it may not be as convenient mailing them to Emilios or this list, it is 
no different a process than having committers on a project featuring a public 
repository.
The Zen team is doing a great job of making available a product where there is 
a real open source niche (or free, if you don't agree with my open source 
assessment).

That being said, I do have to agree that your last post is a tad bit out of 
line. There is no need to berate the project or any members, who have all been 
courteous and answering your questions.
This mailing list is designed for mutual collaboration, so if you have anything 
constructive input, by all means, post it here!
You could start by maybe setting up the repository you (and maybe others, too) 
so much desire?

-Andy

From: Laura Garcia [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Zenloadbalancer-support] Zenloadbalancer-support Digest, Vol 19, 
Issue 19

First of all, Bill, it's essential the RESPECT to all members of this list and 
to this project. If you don't like ZenLB, please leave this list.

If you say this is a closed source project you have NO IDEA about this project. 
Tell me just one part of code that it's not open.

Your conduct is intolerable and we're not going to tolerate that you offend the 
hard work we're doing every day. If you've to say anything always with RESPECT.

Thanks.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:47 PM, bill.broaden systems 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
First of All,
Zen Load Balancer is not Open Source!

I Can´t see any repository SNV, CVS, Git or any other type available.

So The Myth of "Open Source" is word´s on the winds !

Every and definitly ago and upfront, The ZenLoadbalancer is CLOSED SOURCE!

Don´t belive in any other explanation about this. and if anyone speak another 
thing about this. Ask for this Person Show an Zip Archive of the Latest and 
updated source code release.

Thrunk, tags, Realease, branch´s ?? Where ?

Im sorry, this history of the "Zend Open Source " is only for the Company 
Behind Zend Skin project to make a beta tester for he debug better product, and 
when stable production go to deliverered. he killed this "fake" open source 
project.
Please help us to announce about this fraud.

Thanks for all

Bill J.
2012/6/29 
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  1. zenloadbalancer port to Linux on  Mainframe S390 platform
     under z/VM (Emilio Campos)
  2. Re: zenloadbalancer port to Linux on      Mainframe S390 platform
     under z/VM (Srivastava, Sagar)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:14:36 +0200
From: Emilio Campos 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [Zenloadbalancer-support] zenloadbalancer port to Linux on
       Mainframe S390 platform under z/VM
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I reply below

2012/6/27 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

> ---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
> From: "Srivastava, Sagar" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:03:09 -0400
>
> Subject: zenloadbalancer port to Linux on Mainframe S390 platform under
> z/VM
>
>
>
> First of all Zenloadbalancer is a wonderful product, nicely implemented
> using already existing tools like pen, pound, mini_httpd, ucarp,
> check_http, rsync etc. Nicely written lightweight GUI. Running with RAM
> usage of 70MB-impressive!  I am very pleased with its reliability, I have
> just tested it until now for TCP loadbalancing, it?s not in production yet.
>
>
>
> I wish I could keep it running in VMware environment but we need to run it
> in our mainframe Linux (zLinux under z/VM) ?we use Novell?s SLES (SuSE
> Linux Enterprise Server).
>
>
>
> So my question would be- how could this be ported to s390 platform? Since
> this is opensource and each of the tools can support s390 linux, how could
> I run it on my small little SLES  instance  in the mainframe. Most of the
> code is written in Perl. But there are some binaries too.(see ELF binaries
> below). Are there any procedures I could follow to do this myself if
> possible?
>

There is not procedure to do it

>
>
> Also, any reason why the virtual appliance is based on 32 bit version and
> the physical one is instead 64bit.-we use only 64 bit Linux on our
> mainframe.
>

not yet 64 bits support .

>
>
> My wish list:
>
> 1) Port to other Linux platform like S390(mainframe)-CentOS/RHEL etc
>
> 2) command line support /documentation for regular LB activities etc
> (because the GUI is a little slow-its works perfectly fine, please don?t
> get me wrong)
>
> 3) some documentation/specifications listing requirement for sizing
> purposes listing traffic/data/CPU/memory/workload sizing limits etc.
>
>
>

>

Good wish, we accept help of other members to do this and other wishes, the
help is welcomed.


>
>
> Binary files found:
>
> linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/ucarp/sbin> file ucarp
>
> ucarp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, not stripped
>
>
>
> linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/pen/bin> file *
>
> mergelogs: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
>
> pen:       ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not stripped
>
> penctl:    ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
>
> penlog:    ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
>
> penlogd:   ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
>
>
>
> linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/pound/sbin> file *
>
> pound:    ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not stripped
>
> poundctl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not stripped
>
>
>
> linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/libexec> file *
>
> check_http:   ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
>
> check_ldap:   ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
>
> check_smtp:   ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
>
> check_tcp:    ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you for keeping it open source!!
>

It's difficult to maintenance an open source project:
give support
solve bugs
new features
web content
documentatcion
a long etc..

Always we accept any  help in work that the community could give us and we
are open to hear proposals!





Sagar






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From: "Srivastava, Sagar" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [Zenloadbalancer-support] zenloadbalancer port to Linux
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Thank you Emilio.



In my load tests etc I will possibly try to measure and share some stats
later with the list in future.



I understand zenloadbalancer being a small community and I am willing to
compile it myself and built it in s390 platform SuSE Linux. I will need
some direction from someone experienced in the project. Hopefully
someone can help. I don't want to be aggressive in it, but I want to
start it when someone is ready to give me some directions.



First thing I would need to acquire is list and versions of all the
sources used to built it. A lot of them I can directly copy-PERL code
etc from ISO image. I would need the sources for the binaries found in
the ISO. Hopefully original sources were not modified except the install
locations-someone may confirm/help me. Also, someone may give me basic
steps if possible so I could do similar to the current ISO build
process. I would not want to code the installer-of course I cannot make
the installation program as nice and simple as it is in Intel platform
ISO today- because I am not experienced in creating a distribution.



Later, if I am successful, I plan to share the detailed steps with the
community.



Lastly, I want to state that I am not a developer, I am a system admin
so hopefully I can still do it unless, it needs heavy coding.



I feel this product/setup can be very useful for the mainframe Linux
community if we can port it.



Sagar





From: Emilio Campos 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:15 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Zenloadbalancer-support] zenloadbalancer port to Linux
onMainframe S390 platform under z/VM



I reply below

2012/6/27 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
From: "Srivastava, Sagar" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc:
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:03:09 -0400


Subject: zenloadbalancer port to Linux on Mainframe S390 platform under
z/VM



First of all Zenloadbalancer is a wonderful product, nicely implemented
using already existing tools like pen, pound, mini_httpd, ucarp,
check_http, rsync etc. Nicely written lightweight GUI. Running with RAM
usage of 70MB-impressive!  I am very pleased with its reliability, I
have just tested it until now for TCP loadbalancing, it's not in
production yet.



I wish I could keep it running in VMware environment but we need to run
it in our mainframe Linux (zLinux under z/VM) -we use Novell's SLES
(SuSE Linux Enterprise Server).



So my question would be- how could this be ported to s390 platform?
Since this is opensource and each of the tools can support s390 linux,
how could I run it on my small little SLES  instance  in the mainframe.
Most of the code is written in Perl. But there are some binaries
too.(see ELF binaries below). Are there any procedures I could follow to
do this myself if possible?


There is not procedure to do it



       Also, any reason why the virtual appliance is based on 32 bit
version and the physical one is instead 64bit.-we use only 64 bit Linux
on our mainframe.


not yet 64 bits support .



       My wish list:

       1) Port to other Linux platform like S390(mainframe)-CentOS/RHEL
etc

       2) command line support /documentation for regular LB activities
etc (because the GUI is a little slow-its works perfectly fine, please
don't get me wrong)

       3) some documentation/specifications listing requirement for
sizing purposes listing traffic/data/CPU/memory/workload sizing limits
etc.







Good wish, we accept help of other members to do this and other wishes,
the help is welcomed.




       Binary files found:

       linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/ucarp/sbin> file ucarp

       ucarp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, not stripped



       linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/pen/bin> file *

       mergelogs: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not
stripped

       pen:       ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not
stripped

       penctl:    ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not
stripped

       penlog:    ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not
stripped

       penlogd:   ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not
stripped



       linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/pound/sbin> file *

       pound:    ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not
stripped

       poundctl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not
stripped



       linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/libexec> file *

       check_http:   ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1,
stripped

       check_ldap:   ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1,
stripped

       check_smtp:   ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1,
stripped

       check_tcp:    ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1,
stripped





       Thank you for keeping it open source!!


It's difficult to maintenance an open source project:
give support
solve bugs
new features
web content
documentatcion
a long etc..

Always we accept any  help in work that the community could give us and
we are open to hear proposals!





Sagar







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