Hi, Bill and Zen Masters.
You don't know me, so let me introduce myself. My name is Jose, and I'm zen
developer too.
First of all, a control system of software or versions system is not synonymous
with open source.
Bill, read this, please: http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd
Every part of Zen Load Balancer is Open Source. Pen is the only binary that
is not compiled from the original source code, but we sent it to the author
(if he did not publish it, not our responsibility). However, every time
that some people ask us for it, we send it without any charge. The rest of
the parts of zen load balancers are scripts. They are not compiled, you
can see every line of code, and can distribute it, and of course modify.
Bill, you're confusing technical and software development tools with Open
Source definition.
We have done a lot of work in our free time. We'd like to spend more time
to have a svn or git repository, and manage it, and explode it, but we
don't have more time.
We are working for the community, this is not only open source project, but
a free load balancing solution that is competing with solutions that costs
more than 5000 €.
We have never failed in our announced plans, and we are always supporting
every question of the distribution list.
I think that anyone who works with this project deserves respect, so I'd
like you to make allowances to people in this mailing list.
Best Regards.
Jose
2012/6/29 bill.broaden systems <[email protected]>
> First of All,
> Zen Load Balancer is not Open Source!
>
> I Can´t see any repository SNV, CVS, Git or any other type available.
>
> So The Myth of "Open Source" is word´s on the winds !
>
> Every and definitly ago and upfront, The ZenLoadbalancer is CLOSED SOURCE!
>
> Don´t belive in any other explanation about this. and if anyone speak
> another thing about this. Ask for this Person Show an Zip Archive of the
> Latest and updated source code release.
>
> Thrunk, tags, Realease, branch´s ?? Where ?
>
> Im sorry, this history of the "Zend Open Source " is only for the Company
> Behind Zend Skin project to make a beta tester for he debug better product,
> and when stable production go to deliverered. he killed this "fake" open
> source project.
> Please help us to announce about this fraud.
>
> Thanks for all
>
> Bill J.
> 2012/6/29 <[email protected]>
>
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>> 1. zenloadbalancer port to Linux on Mainframe S390 platform
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>> 2. Re: zenloadbalancer port to Linux on Mainframe S390 platform
>> under z/VM (Srivastava, Sagar)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:14:36 +0200
>> From: Emilio Campos <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Zenloadbalancer-support] zenloadbalancer port to Linux on
>> Mainframe S390 platform under z/VM
>> To: [email protected]
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>> I reply below
>>
>> 2012/6/27 <[email protected]>
>>
>> > ---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
>> > From: "Srivastava, Sagar" <[email protected]>
>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> > Cc:
>> > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:03:09 -0400
>> >
>> > Subject: zenloadbalancer port to Linux on Mainframe S390 platform under
>> > z/VM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > First of all Zenloadbalancer is a wonderful product, nicely implemented
>> > using already existing tools like pen, pound, mini_httpd, ucarp,
>> > check_http, rsync etc. Nicely written lightweight GUI. Running with RAM
>> > usage of 70MB-impressive! I am very pleased with its reliability, I
>> have
>> > just tested it until now for TCP loadbalancing, it?s not in production
>> yet.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I wish I could keep it running in VMware environment but we need to run
>> it
>> > in our mainframe Linux (zLinux under z/VM) ?we use Novell?s SLES (SuSE
>> > Linux Enterprise Server).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > So my question would be- how could this be ported to s390 platform?
>> Since
>> > this is opensource and each of the tools can support s390 linux, how
>> could
>> > I run it on my small little SLES instance in the mainframe. Most of
>> the
>> > code is written in Perl. But there are some binaries too.(see ELF
>> binaries
>> > below). Are there any procedures I could follow to do this myself if
>> > possible?
>> >
>>
>> There is not procedure to do it
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Also, any reason why the virtual appliance is based on 32 bit version
>> and
>> > the physical one is instead 64bit.-we use only 64 bit Linux on our
>> > mainframe.
>> >
>>
>> not yet 64 bits support .
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > My wish list:
>> >
>> > 1) Port to other Linux platform like S390(mainframe)-CentOS/RHEL etc
>> >
>> > 2) command line support /documentation for regular LB activities etc
>> > (because the GUI is a little slow-its works perfectly fine, please don?t
>> > get me wrong)
>> >
>> > 3) some documentation/specifications listing requirement for sizing
>> > purposes listing traffic/data/CPU/memory/workload sizing limits etc.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> Good wish, we accept help of other members to do this and other wishes,
>> the
>> help is welcomed.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Binary files found:
>> >
>> > linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/ucarp/sbin> file ucarp
>> >
>> > ucarp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, not stripped
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/pen/bin> file *
>> >
>> > mergelogs: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
>> >
>> > pen: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not
>> stripped
>> >
>> > penctl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
>> >
>> > penlog: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
>> >
>> > penlogd: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/pound/sbin> file *
>> >
>> > pound: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not
>> stripped
>> >
>> > poundctl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not
>> stripped
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/libexec> file *
>> >
>> > check_http: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
>> >
>> > check_ldap: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
>> >
>> > check_smtp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
>> >
>> > check_tcp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you for keeping it open source!!
>> >
>>
>> It's difficult to maintenance an open source project:
>> give support
>> solve bugs
>> new features
>> web content
>> documentatcion
>> a long etc..
>>
>> Always we accept any help in work that the community could give us and we
>> are open to hear proposals!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sagar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Load balancer distribution - Open Source Project
>> http://www.zenloadbalancer.com
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:01:40 -0400
>> From: "Srivastava, Sagar" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Zenloadbalancer-support] zenloadbalancer port to Linux
>> on Mainframe S390 platform under z/VM
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Message-ID:
>> <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Thank you Emilio.
>>
>>
>>
>> In my load tests etc I will possibly try to measure and share some stats
>> later with the list in future.
>>
>>
>>
>> I understand zenloadbalancer being a small community and I am willing to
>> compile it myself and built it in s390 platform SuSE Linux. I will need
>> some direction from someone experienced in the project. Hopefully
>> someone can help. I don't want to be aggressive in it, but I want to
>> start it when someone is ready to give me some directions.
>>
>>
>>
>> First thing I would need to acquire is list and versions of all the
>> sources used to built it. A lot of them I can directly copy-PERL code
>> etc from ISO image. I would need the sources for the binaries found in
>> the ISO. Hopefully original sources were not modified except the install
>> locations-someone may confirm/help me. Also, someone may give me basic
>> steps if possible so I could do similar to the current ISO build
>> process. I would not want to code the installer-of course I cannot make
>> the installation program as nice and simple as it is in Intel platform
>> ISO today- because I am not experienced in creating a distribution.
>>
>>
>>
>> Later, if I am successful, I plan to share the detailed steps with the
>> community.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lastly, I want to state that I am not a developer, I am a system admin
>> so hopefully I can still do it unless, it needs heavy coding.
>>
>>
>>
>> I feel this product/setup can be very useful for the mainframe Linux
>> community if we can port it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sagar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Emilio Campos [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:15 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Zenloadbalancer-support] zenloadbalancer port to Linux
>> onMainframe S390 platform under z/VM
>>
>>
>>
>> I reply below
>>
>> 2012/6/27 <[email protected]>
>>
>> ---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
>> From: "Srivastava, Sagar" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:03:09 -0400
>>
>>
>> Subject: zenloadbalancer port to Linux on Mainframe S390 platform under
>> z/VM
>>
>>
>>
>> First of all Zenloadbalancer is a wonderful product, nicely implemented
>> using already existing tools like pen, pound, mini_httpd, ucarp,
>> check_http, rsync etc. Nicely written lightweight GUI. Running with RAM
>> usage of 70MB-impressive! I am very pleased with its reliability, I
>> have just tested it until now for TCP loadbalancing, it's not in
>> production yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish I could keep it running in VMware environment but we need to run
>> it in our mainframe Linux (zLinux under z/VM) -we use Novell's SLES
>> (SuSE Linux Enterprise Server).
>>
>>
>>
>> So my question would be- how could this be ported to s390 platform?
>> Since this is opensource and each of the tools can support s390 linux,
>> how could I run it on my small little SLES instance in the mainframe.
>> Most of the code is written in Perl. But there are some binaries
>> too.(see ELF binaries below). Are there any procedures I could follow to
>> do this myself if possible?
>>
>>
>> There is not procedure to do it
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, any reason why the virtual appliance is based on 32 bit
>> version and the physical one is instead 64bit.-we use only 64 bit Linux
>> on our mainframe.
>>
>>
>> not yet 64 bits support .
>>
>>
>>
>> My wish list:
>>
>> 1) Port to other Linux platform like S390(mainframe)-CentOS/RHEL
>> etc
>>
>> 2) command line support /documentation for regular LB activities
>> etc (because the GUI is a little slow-its works perfectly fine, please
>> don't get me wrong)
>>
>> 3) some documentation/specifications listing requirement for
>> sizing purposes listing traffic/data/CPU/memory/workload sizing limits
>> etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Good wish, we accept help of other members to do this and other wishes,
>> the help is welcomed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Binary files found:
>>
>> linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/ucarp/sbin> file ucarp
>>
>> ucarp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, not stripped
>>
>>
>>
>> linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/pen/bin> file *
>>
>> mergelogs: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
>> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not
>> stripped
>>
>> pen: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
>> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not
>> stripped
>>
>> penctl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
>> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not
>> stripped
>>
>> penlog: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
>> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not
>> stripped
>>
>> penlogd: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
>> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not
>> stripped
>>
>>
>>
>> linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/pound/sbin> file *
>>
>> pound: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
>> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not
>> stripped
>>
>> poundctl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
>> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not
>> stripped
>>
>>
>>
>> linuxlbt01 /usr/local/zenloadbalancer/app/libexec> file *
>>
>> check_http: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
>> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1,
>> stripped
>>
>> check_ldap: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
>> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1,
>> stripped
>>
>> check_smtp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
>> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1,
>> stripped
>>
>> check_tcp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
>> (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1,
>> stripped
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for keeping it open source!!
>>
>>
>> It's difficult to maintenance an open source project:
>> give support
>> solve bugs
>> new features
>> web content
>> documentatcion
>> a long etc..
>>
>> Always we accept any help in work that the community could give us and
>> we are open to hear proposals!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sagar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Load balancer distribution - Open Source Project
>> http://www.zenloadbalancer.com
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