Imho you shouldnt invest too much time in getting dists sound and safe for everybody. S'one that needs zmq surely has no prob in upgrading one or two pkgs. Think about the typical help text in kernal config: "if you dont know what this is, you propably dont need it" ^5 Sven =================== sent by the iPhone
Am 14.10.2010 um 14:53 schrieb Pieter Hintjens <[email protected]>: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Martin Lucina <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Again, is there an issue with the actual release tarballs? > > Until about an hour ago the Java binding needed 2.1.x... > >> Can you not build zeromq (2.0.x or 2.1.x) from a tarball produced >> with >> "make dist" on a sufficiently new distribution? > > Yes, this would work but it's not on the 'unsurprising' path for > someone building from the website instructions. If we know what we're > doing, we stick to a modern Linux with everything already installed. > > Anyhow, the experiment was to chuck 4 random developers in 3 languages > at Google and say, "make the hello world client/server work", and > observe the results... > > It was fairly painful to watch: > > - Everyone was confused by having to install 0MQ core before the > language bindings, so I added explanatory text to the language > bindings template page. > - One guy ended up trying to install m4 by hand before I stopped him > - Every Java user tried first to build the normal package and then got > compile errors > - There were several small errors (or version differences, not sure) > in the Java and Python instructions on zeromq.org > - Java developers were surprised to need MSVC on Windows, but when I > added links to the free VC++ Express, they got things working. > - They installed MSVS without varchars32.bat, which caused the Python > build to break. > - There is some weirdness with g++ 4.0.x that break the 'c' script > used for C++ examples > - Overall there seem to be a 'lot of pieces' to install before > anything works > - The Download .zip from the main repo claims it's 2.0.9 when in fact > it's 2.1.0 internally. > - etc. > > Obviously providing Windows installers would help part of that. But > we still end up sending people to github too often, where they get > lost in a tricky maze of autoconfs and downloads. > > - > Pieter > _______________________________________________ > zeromq-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.zeromq.org/mailman/listinfo/zeromq-dev _______________________________________________ zeromq-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.zeromq.org/mailman/listinfo/zeromq-dev
