Hi Nitoo, Please don't tell David this if he's feeling low, but somehow these poems below leave me, personally, at this moment, a little cold. Lanarkshire Birds has a great title and very nice moments but in the end it feels a little cutesy.
But... I am very confused about something and apropos to Shivam and Anand and your own research, I wonder if you could unfold for us a little more what publication means...? Many prestigious journals have a rule that they will not include stuff that has been previously unpublished, that's why I've sometimes included stuff on this list with a caveat. However... if you post to an internet site where hundreds of people read your work, is that publication? If you poems are taken on by a curated internet site where not everything that has been submitted is accepted for publication, does that make it publication? If you print out neat copies of your manuscript and give them to a hundred of your friends, is that publication? If copies are individually retyped by their readers and circulated, as with samizdat, is that publication? If the state forbids the printing of your poems and your friends transmit them by memorising them and destroying the very paper they were written on, as was the case with Osip Mandelstam, is that publication? If you pay for the printing of your own book under the cover of an imprint, is that publication? If you contribute to the printing of your book as part of a collective, as was the case with Clearing House press (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) which put out such important books as Kolatkar's Jejuri (now being reissued by the New York Review of Books) or Eunice De Souza's Fix, is that publication? If a friend says he'll pay for the publishing of your book without any contribution from you, does that make it publication? If a notoriously idiosyncratic/unreliable editor of a small press takes on your book, is it still publication? If an idiosyncratic editor of a major press takes on your book, does that make it publication? If all of the above is publication, than what, indeed, is publication? If your poems have appeared in respectable, "refereed" journals, why is this considered less significant publication than if your academic articles have appeared in respectable, "refereed" journals? Why does publication seem so important before you have published, and so insignificant after you have done so? Help! Vivek River . wrote: > Three of my favourite David McKelvie poems. But there are more! ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rkgkPB/UOnJAA/Zx0JAA/yqIolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Did you get this mail as a forward? Subscribe by sending a blank mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], OR, if you have a Yahoo! ID, by visiting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTPoets/join. Members are encouraged to post poetry, their own and others', respond critically to the poems circulated, and participate in discussions. Post via email at [email protected] OR online at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTPoets/post. ---theZESTcommunity-------------- [1] ZESTCurrent: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTCurrent/ [2] ZESTEconomics: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTEconomics/ [3] ZESTGlobal: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTGlobal/ [4] ZESTMedia: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTMedia/ [5] ZESTPoets: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTPoets/ [6] ZESTCaste: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTCaste/ [7] ZESTAlternative: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTAlternative/ [8] TalkZEST: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TalkZEST/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTPoets/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
