> One of those EIDE ports is running the optical drive,
> so I don't actually
> have two free ports there even if I replaced the two
> boot drives with IDE
> drives.

Yep, as I expected.

> I've given some though to booting from a thumb drive
> instead of disks. 
> That would free up two SATA ports AND two hot-swap
> disk bays, which would
> be nice.  And by simply keeping an image of the thumb
> drive contents, I
> could replace it very quickly if something died in
> it, so I could live
> without automatic failover redundancy in the boot
> disks.  Obviously thumb
> drives are slow, but other than boot time, it should
> slow down anything
> important too much (especially if I increase memory).

I've seen anecdotal evidence for not using thumb drives, speed, error-prone, 
logging etc, but maybe someone else can provide some more info. If you have a 
5.25" or 3.5" slot outside of your 8-drive drive cage, you could use two 2.5" 
HDs as a boot mirror, leaving all 8 bays free for drives for future expansion 
needs, as a possibility. But if six data drives are enough then this becomes 
less interesting. An possible option though. I chucked 2 SSDs into one 5.25" 
slot for my boot mirror, which worked out nicely, and a cheaper option is to 
use 2.5" HDs instead -- with a twin mounter here: 
http://breden.org.uk/2009/08/29/home-fileserver-mirrored-ssd-zfs-root-boot/

> My current chassis has 8 hot-swap bays, so unless I
> change that, nothing I
> can do will consume more than two additional
> controller ports.  Seems like
> a two-port card would be cheaper than an 8-port card
> (although as you say
> that 8-port card isn't that bad, around $150 last I
> looked it up).
> 
> But does anybody have a good 2-port card to recommend
> that's significantly
> cheaper?  If there is none, then future flexibility
> does start to look
> interesting.

Maybe others can recommend a 2 or 4 port card. When I looked mid-2009 I found 
some card but I didn't really feel like the hardware or possibly the driver was 
that robust, and I prefer not to lose my data or get more grey 
hairs/headaches... so I chose the 8-port known robust card/driver option :) And 
you just know that you'll need that extra port or two one day...

> I could have had more space initially by using the 4
> disks in RAIDZ
> instead of two mirror pairs.  I decided not to
> because that left me only
> very bad expansion options -- replacing all 4 drives
> at once and risking
> other drives failing during resilver 4 times in a row
> (and the removed
> drive isn't much use in recovery in that scenario I
> don't think).  Whereas
> with the mirror pairs I run much less risk of errors
> during resilver
> simply based on less time, two disks vs. four disks.
>  I actually started
> ith just one mirror pair, and then added a second
> mirror vdev to the pool
> when the first one started to get full.  I basically
> settled on mirror
> pairs as my building blocks for this fileserver.

Indeed, mirrors have a lot of interesting properties. But if you're upgrading 
now, you might want to consider using 3 way mirrors instead of 2 as this gives 
extra protection.

> Ooh, looks like there's lots of interesting detail
> there, too.

Yes, I documented most of my ZFS discoveries there so others can hopefully 
benefit from my headaches :)

Cheers,
Simon

http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/
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