> I've got at least one available 5.25" bay.  I hadn't
> considered 2.5" HDs;
> that's a tempting way to get the physical space I
> need.

Yes, it is an interesting option. But remember about any necessary cooling if 
moving them from a currently cooled area. As I used SSDs this turned out to be 
irrelevant as they don't seem to get hot, but for mechanical drives this is not 
the case.

> I'm running an SSD boot disk in my desktop box and so
> far I'm very
> disappointed (about half a generation too early, is
> my analysis).  And I
> don't need the theoretical performance for this boot
> disk.  I don't see
> the expense as buying me anything, and they're still
> pretty darned
> expensive.

Which model/capacity are you using?
Yes, they are not quite there yet, and I certainly should probably not have 
bothered buying these ones from the price perspective, as two 2.5" drives would 
have been fine. But for a desktop machine I'm quite surprised you're 
disappointed. But there is currently enormous variation in quality due to 
firmware making huge differences. They can only improve :)

> I've considered having the boot disks not hot-swap.
>  I could live with
> hat, although getting into the case is a pain (it
> lives on a shelf over
> my desk, so I either work on it in place or else I
> disconnect and
> reconnect all the external cabling; either way is
> ugly).

I think I would be tempted to maximise the available hot-swap bay space for 
data drives -- but only if it's required.

> Logging to flash-drives is slow, yes, and will wear
> them out, yes.  But if
> a $40 drive lasts two years, I'm very happy.  And the
> demise is
> write-based in this scenario, not random failure, so
> it should be fairly
> predictable.

Not an expert on this but I seem to remember that constant log-writing wore out 
these thumbdrives out, but don't quote me on that. 2.5" drives are very cheap 
too, and would be my personal choice in this case.

> I'm trying to simplify here!  But yeah, if nobody
> comes along with a
> significantly cheaper robust card of fewer ports,
> I'll probably do the
> same.

If you find the extra ports & capacity upgrade options useful then you won't go 
wrong with that card. It's worked flawlessly for me. Along with the 8-ports on 
the card, you have the 6 additional ones remaining on the mobo, so lack of SATA 
ports will never be a problem again :) It gives you lots of space to juggle 
things around if you want to.

One example, if one has a large case, is to make a backup pool from old drives 
within the same case. I haven't done this, but it has crossed my mind. As all 
the drives are local, the backup speed should be terrific, as there's no 
network involved... and if the drives were on a second PSU, which is only 
switched on to perform backups, no electricity needs to be wasted. I have to 
look into whether this is a workable idea though...

> 6 or 8 hot-swap bays and enough controllers gives me
> relatively few
> interesting choices.  6: 2 three-way, or three
> two-way; 8: four two-way,
> or...still only 2 three-way.  I don't think double
> redundancy is worth
> much to me in this case (daily backups to two or more
> external media sets,
> and hot-swap so I don't wait to replace a bad drive).

Indeed, and often forgotten by home builders, is that if you have dependable 
regular backups which employ redundancy in the backup pool, then you don't need 
to be so paranoid about your main storage pool, although I personally prefer to 
have double parity. Extra insurance is a good thing :)

> Actually, if I move the boot disks somewhere and have
> 8 hot-swap bays for
> data, I might well go with three two-way mirrors plus
> two hot spares. Or
> at least one.

Yep, it gives you a lot of options :)

Cheers,
Simon

http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/02/a-home-fileserver-using-zfs/
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