Hi Ned,

If you look at the examples on the page that you cite, they start
with single-parity RAIDZ examples and then move to double-parity RAIDZ
example with supporting text, here:

http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-5461/gcvjg?a=view

Can you restate the problem with this page?

Thanks,

Cindy


On 03/26/10 05:42, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
Just because most people are probably too lazy to click the link, I’ll paste a phrase from that sun.com webpage below:

“Creating a single-parity RAID-Z pool is identical to creating a mirrored pool, except that the ‘raidz’ or ‘raidz1’ keyword is used instead of ‘mirror’.”

And

“zpool create tank raidz2 c1t0d0 c2t0d0 c3t0d0”

So … Shame on you, Sun, for doing this to your poor unfortunate readers. It would be nice if the page were a wiki, or somehow able to have feedback submitted…

*From:* zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] *On Behalf Of *Bruno Sousa
*Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:28 PM
*To:* Freddie Cash
*Cc:* ZFS filesystem discussion list
*Subject:* Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 configuration

Hmm...it might be completely wrong , but the idea of raidz2 vdev with 3 disks came from the reading of http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-5461/gcvjg?a=view .

This particular page has the following example :

*zpool create tank raidz2 c1t0d0 c2t0d0 c3t0d0*

# *zpool status -v tank*

  pool: tank

 state: ONLINE

 scrub: none requested

config:

        NAME          STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM

        tank          ONLINE       0     0     0

          raidz2      ONLINE       0     0     0

            c1t0d0    ONLINE       0     0     0

            c2t0d0    ONLINE       0     0     0

            c3t0d0    ONLINE       0     0     0

So...what am i missing here? Just a bad example in the sun documentation regarding zfs?

Bruno

On 25-3-2010 20:10, Freddie Cash wrote:

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Bruno Sousa <bso...@epinfante.com <mailto:bso...@epinfante.com>> wrote:

What do you mean by "Using fewer than 4 disks in a raidz2 defeats the purpose of raidz2, as you will always be in a degraded mode" ? Does it means that having 2 vdevs with 3 disks it won't be redundant in the advent of a drive failure?

raidz1 is similar to raid5 in that it is single-parity, and requires a minimum of 3 drives (2 data + 1 parity)

raidz2 is similar to raid6 in that it is double-parity, and requires a minimum of 4 drives (2 data + 2 parity)

IOW, a raidz2 vdev made up of 3 drives will always be running in degraded mode (it's missing a drive).

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