Thanks for your interesting story. I totally agree with you. Zim
should be more widely known, since it's a very good piece of software.
I think that part of its excellence comes from its versatility. That's
why long ago I asked other members to post their use cases on this
forum. Sometimes it's enlightening seeing how others are using Zim.
Probably, if we could put together more real-life examples of what you
can do with Zim and Jaap could publish these example on one or more
pages, you would have found Zim in the first place. That could be a
good move from a SEO point of view. Lots of targeted content with
Regarding changing the tagline, I think it's entirely on the project's
founder. But yes, desktop wiki is somewhat limiting Zim's
On the other hand, let's try not to forget Zawinski's Law of Software
Envelopment: "Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail.
Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can."
:-) I would hate seeing Zim become bloatware (I'm all confident that
Jaap is too clever to do so, BTW).
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Jules Moules <julesmou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all
> I guess this is directed at Jaap Karssenberg.
> I used Tomboy notes. Loved it, great app, perfect for my day-to-day use.
> After a short enough time it grew to nearly 400 notes (okay, 70 of those
> were recipes, including pigeon pie - interested?).
> But I got a little tetchy. I wanted to insert inline photos, attach stuff
> so I didn't lose it (okay, I could link to a web page but who could
> guarantee that the page would still be up in a year's time?) Couldn't do
> A good friend also uses Tomboy, so I'd want to send him a note. Fine.
> First I had to find the note, then attach it, and then give instructions to
> my not-so-experienced-friend on how to save it. So, more than a few growing
> up pains, and a need for extra stuff for my notes app. But then, along came
> the Ubuntu One Tomboy Notes Synchronisation Disaster™... That had
> absolutely nothing to with Tomboy Notes, I might add (I still love that
> So I had a look around, couldn't find anything I really liked. But by a
> random and unconnected route came across ZIM. A 'desktop' wiki. Well, I
> thought, going off on a tangent from what I was supposed to be doing, Tomboy
> is wiki-ish, so I'll have a little look at this to see if it can do the
> basic Tomboy stuff... and discovered namespaces. That was it....
> Well, the result is history in my little world. It does everything that
> Tomboy can do and, frankly, does it better. Plus it has all that extra
> stuff that I'd been wanting for Tomboy. So I'm getting my friend to install
> it, too.
> Now after all that preamble here's the 'but': why don't you advertise it as
> a Personal Desktop Notes Application and/or Wiki. I very nearly didn't find
> ZIM at all! It didn't even feel, or seem from the name, like a drop-in
> replacement for Tomboy, ZIM works straight out of the box, has excellent
> docco, and also comes with a working Tomboy notes conversion script.
> I remain, Mr Karssenberg, pleasurably confused and annoyed. ZIM is a
> fantastic little app and should be much more widely known as a Desktop Notes
> App and/or Wiki (and I'm talking as a general user of wikis at work - hell,
> I've even set 'em up - as information resources on projects, technical
> issues and for all sorts of stuff - and even I didn't make that
> connection!!!). Because, unlike all the other server-based wikis I'd used
> and setup, this one was for the desktop. And I didn't make that simple
> connection that a wiki can also be a personal desktop app, and that meant a
> notes app. My fault, perhaps, but I doubt I'm alone in this...
> So, how about the tag-line change? Because it's an almost perfect desktop
> notes app..... and I'd like to see it marketed as such to those users who,
> just like me, want just a little more from their everyday notes app.
> Many thanks for your hard work.
> Jules Moules
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