I do not know that he needs a new family, John.  He just needs some of them
to repent.  His dad is my favority uncle and one that shows me great love
and concern and I kinow he loves Jim, cause he tells me so.

There are some stange ones in our family - as there are in any family.  To
those who claim differently I say well good for you, but why could not God
trust you with the tough ones.  We have a few tough ones in the Cobabe clan,
but more than enough good to handle the challenges.

Don't you agree, Jim????


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Conversion

> Jim Cobabe wrote:
> >I am continually wounded by discussions that use family metaphors
> >regarding church fellowship.  Over the past decade my family ties have
> >been tested, both bonds with literal blood-relations and fellow saints.
> >Many of the alliances I thought I could depend on came apart in times of
> >trial, and some even turned around to become my personal
> You just need a new family, Jim.  And don't forget, you still have family
> that have not abandoned you.  Seems like I had dinner with them just a few
> months back.  Your point about having the right relationship with God is
> true, however.  Ultimately, we all need a certain degree of
> self-sufficiency and our own relationship with the Holy Ghost.
> John W. Redelfs                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ===========================================
> "The study of the doctrines of the Gospel will improve
> behavior quicker than a study of behavior will improve
> behavior."  --Boyd K. Packer
> ===========================================
> All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR
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