I agree with Harold Bloom on both issues. First, the LDS Church has gone "mainstream"
in many ways. It has been accepted by many (if not most) as a standard Christian
religion in the United States. We don't have the federal government or state
governments trying to eliminate us. We have moderated some of our practices and
teachings, though we still believe them. While Brigham Young would teach extremely
esoteric ideas from the pulpit, today's prophets have gone back to the key doctrines
Second, the Church will become a very powerful organization over the next couple
decades. Why? Because it is a firm foundation in a world that is sliding continuously.
We have what once were honorable and decent religions accepting sinful men and
practices as "mainstream" for their churches (such as in the Episcopalian Church). As
the chasm grows bigger between the good and evil, we will see many churches choose to
dwell on the other side of the murky river in the great and spacious building.
While they will have many converts, there will be many that will be disgusted with the
open acceptance of sin, and they will seek truth and light elsewhere. Many will grasp
onto the iron rod and find themselves before the Tree of Life.
We may not be a majority of the Americans in 2020, but our influence will be very
strong. And, if my reading of D&C 87 is correct, we will see continued attacks by the
modern day Gadiantons - the remnant of the slaves who are angered with the Gentile
nations. And with that we shall soon begin to see great destructions in the world,
both natural and manmade.
But Zion and her stakes will be places where the saints can stand firm and safe; even
if some have to gather together physically, as in the days of Lachoneus. And many
others will join us, seeing thee is safety and righteousness in Zion. The Council of
50 will be made up of good men, not necessarily just members of the Church. It could
easily replace our current government, if it were to collapse, with representatives
from many upright religious groups working together to establish peace and prosperity;
and with the LDS Church as a key component to that preparation for the Second Coming.
Oh, and BTW, I'm here, too. Perhaps I'll stay a while, depending on the tenor of the
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:25:33 -0900
From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mainstreaming Mormonism
Harold Bloom, the noted literary critic, wrote in his book THE AMERICAN
"It is weirdly true, in 1991, that the Mormons are as mainstream as you
are, whoever you are, at least in terms of the religion of politics and the
politics of religion."
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:55:38 -0900
From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A Dangerous Book
Harold Bloom, a highly renowned literary critic, makes two outrageous
claims in his book THE AMERICAN RELIGION: 1) The LDS people will resume
the practice of plural marriage, probably by 2020, and 2) The Mormons will
set up the political Kingdom of God before the Second Coming, right here in
the United States, and probably by 2020.
Is this guy totally wacked? Or does he see something that we Mormons can't
see? On page 91 he writes:
--- quote ---
Daniel 2:44 [Nebuchadnezzar's Dream], quote earlier, inspired Joseph Smith
to a grand declaration on May 12, 1844:
'I calculate to be one of the instruments of setting up the kingdom of
Daniel by the word of the Lord, and I intend to lay a foundation that will
revolutionize the whole world.'
That foundation was the Council of Fifty, set up early in 1844, a year in
which Smith rather quixotically declared himself a candidate for the
Presidency of the Unites States, and also the year of his martyrdom. There
are several reasons why 1844 so far has been the crucial year in the
history of Mormonism, to be superseded only sometime in the twenty-first
century, when there could be the establishment of a Mormon Kingdom of God
in some substantial part, if not all, of the United States. For everything
that Joseph Smith had come to prophesy gathers itself together in his
vision of kingship over the Kingdom of God. Nauvoo was not Geneva, and the
joyous Prophet Joseph was anything but a repressed or repressive
personality. His sense of the Kingdom was not metaphorical, though modern
Mormonism, for understandable reasons, has attempted to interpret it only
figuratively, at least to Gentiles."
--- unquote ---
Is that wild or what? A Jewish intellectual, Professor of Literature at
Yale, thinks that we Mormons are going to carve our own country out of the
United States in realization of Joseph Smith's dream of the literal Kingdom
of God on earth.
I just hope that nobody was listening to him when he wrote this book. Much
of the persecution that was waged against the LDS people in times past was
motivated by a fear of Mormon political power. It is only as we have been
able to mollify our Gentile neighbors that we are no political threat that
we have been able to escape the persecution that was so important a part of
our early history as a Church.
I think that Bloom's book could be very dangerous to us as a people. What
do you think?
John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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