That would be a very significant amount of work for us to implement.  We
are using Plone 2.5.1 which doesn't support anything over Zope 2.9.x.

We are also using zope 2.9.5.  I am assuming that this is the same
problem as Alan's since we have the log message filled with the warning
signs below.  

We are still waiting for a copy of iptables and hosts.allow and
host.deny to analyze.

Paul Williams

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Fulton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:13 AM
To: Paul Williams
Cc: Alan Runyan; Dieter Maurer;
Subject: Re: RESOLUTION: Re: [ZODB-Dev] more lockup information /

It would be interesting for you to try this with Zope 2.10/ZODB 3.7.

In ZODB 3.7, I added an attempt to do this sort of keep-alive check.   
Now, clients attempt to send an empty message to the server every 30  
seconds during periods of inactivity.  Of course, I couldn't actually  
test that this fixed anything, as I didn't have a way to reproduce  
the problem.  I didn't mention this earlier in the thread, because it  
didn't sound to me like this was the problem Alan was having.
Alan said he was using Zope 2.9 and this ZODB 3.6.


On Apr 18, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Paul Williams wrote:

> It sounds like we have the same problem.  We had contracted Tres  
> Seaver
> write us a keepalive tool to ping the server periodically.  This has
> fixed our problem and we haven't had a problem in 8 days.  We used to
> have this problem at least once a day.
> The biggest thing is that it is seen by some as a bug in Zope or  
> Python
> since we fixed it with a keepalive.  How do we definitively clear Zeo
> infrastructure?  Is it somehow linked to python code not  
> recognizing the
> connection loss or is this strictly an iptables issue.  Is it a bug in
> iptables or just a mis-configuration?
> Thanks,
> Paul Williams
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Alan Runyan
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 11:52 AM
> To: Dieter Maurer
> Cc:
> Subject: RESOLUTION: Re: [ZODB-Dev] more lockup information /
> zope2.9.6+zodb3.6.2
> Thanks to Jim, Theune, Dieter and all others who weighed in on this
> thread.
> The problem:  ZEO Clients would lock up randomly requiring restart.
> The hints: Lots of 'Connection timed out' and 'No route to host' in
> ZEO Server log files.
> The solution: The machine the ZEO server was running iptables.  Even
> though it was
> allowing the zeo server port 8100; it was filtering on all interfaces.
>  I simply changed rules so port 8100 would not filter the internal
> network interface - at all.  ZEO listens specifically on internal
> ip/port 8100.
> System has been stable for several days; without zeo server logs
> containing any connection errors.  I had never had this problem before
> because.. well.. we use firewalls on our customers (external
> interfaces and our internal interfaces never have filtering) and this
> particular sysadmin was running iptables on all public/private
> interfaces; locking the machine down as much as possible.
> Thanks again guys!
> -- 
> Alan Runyan
> Enfold Systems, Inc.
> phone: +1.713.942.2377x111
> fax: +1.832.201.8856
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