just to be clear: i'm not a maven fan, but i'm not sure anything else is better. buildr looks better flexibility wise, but i think maven is much more popular and mature. with ivy we are still stuck with ant build files.


Patrick Hunt wrote:
Ben, you might want to look at buildr, it recently graduated from the apache incubator:

"Buildr is a build system for Java applications. We wanted something that’s simple and intuitive to use, so we only need to tell it what to do, and it takes care of the rest. But also something we can easily extend for those one-off tasks, with a language that’s a joy to use. And of course, we wanted it to be fast, reliable and have outstanding dependency management."

Also Ivy just released version 2.0.

If you have a specific idea and would like to start working on this please create a JIRA to discuss/track/vote/etc... Be aware that the contribution process, release process and other documentation would have to be updated as part of this. For example if we want to push jars to an artifact repo the artifacts/pom/etc... would have to be voted on as part of the release process.


Benjamin Reed wrote:
i'm ready to reevaluate it. i did the contrib for fatjar and it was extremely painful! (and that was an extremely simple contrib!) we really want to ramp up the contribs and get a bunch of recipe implementations in, so we need something that makes it really easy. i'm not a fan of maven (they seem to have chosen a convention that is convenient for the build tool rather the developer), but it is widely used and i we need something better, so i'm certainly considering it.


Anthony Urso wrote:
Speaking of the contrib section, what is the status of ZOOKEEPER-103?
Is it ready to be reevaluated now that 3.0 is out?


On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Mahadev Konar <maha...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
Hi Kevin,
 It would be great to have such high level interfaces. It could be
something that you could contribute :) . We havent had the bandwidth to
provide such interfaces for zookeeper. It would be great to have all such
recipes as a part of contrib package of zookeeper.


On 1/9/09 11:44 AM, "Kevin Burton" <bur...@spinn3r.com> wrote:

OK.... so it sounds from the group that there are still reasons to provide
rope in ZK to enable algorithms like leader election.
Couldn't ZK ship higher level interfaces for leader election, mutexes,
semapores, queues, barriers, etc instead of pushing this on developers?

Then the remaining APIs, configuration, event notification, and discovery,
can be used on a simpler, rope free API.

The rope is what's killing me now :)


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