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[I'm running out of time here, so pardon the brief responses. Make no
mistake, though - i'm glad to be having this discussion! It's good to
be getting this input, seeing suggestions for other ways to look at
this discussion problem...]
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Toby Dickenson wrote:
> I dont actually have anything against Wikis in general; I have used on very
> successfully for what I would describe as "document refinement", and a
> better annotation scheme will enhance that use of Wikis.
> The passage you quoted uses terms like "subject document", and at the moment
> I dont see that as the best model for a *debate*
Do you feel that weblogs are bad models for debates? I think they're
pretty good least-common-denominators. I would probably prefer the
kind of annotation-based thing i described in my last message (and
began to sketch in the WikiNG proposal) for collaborative generation
of documents, but i can see the place for weblogs, just as i can see a
place for network chats. With adequate integration of email
(for notification and response), i see them as better than just
> > The ability to subscribe for notification (above) and/or to track what
> > you personally have seen, and not, is intended for this kind of thing.
> It would keep me happy if the notification includes a link to the new
> content (rather than a link to the page that contains new content). Even
> better, the email notification could *include* the new content.
Different options for different purposes - but we need at least
> But Wikis don't (for me, today) work for loosely structured commentry.
> Quoting from http://dev.zope.org/Fishbowl/Introduction.html
> >In some cases a mailing list will be setup for substantive,
> >large-scale projects. Otherwise existing mailing lists can
> >be leveraged (for now, use zope-dev for this).
> Perhaps I should rephrase my objection..... The *real* problem is that this
> isnt happening - discussion is stored in Wiki pages like
I think we all agree this is a problem. We seem to have found a short
term solution - though i'll tell you that with time constraints, i
won't immediately have time to incorporate the points raised in the
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