Clark,

sorry to be blunt, but you're talking through your arse!

you make some v. wild statements and offer no justification for them: 
i can only conclude that the application you refer to in fact 
suffered from the same flawed methodology...

if you can be bothered, i would be interested to know exactly what it 
is you mean by the following:

1. "Zope has lost all of the advantages of being a freeware product"
2. "the extreme commercialization of Zope is hurting Zope"
3. "these issues [bugs] are kept strictly confidential"

how is it you go about "reclaiming" something that was never yours?

garry

On 30 Nov 2001, at 10:03, Clark OBrien wrote:

From:                   Clark OBrien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:                     "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:                [Zope-dev] Zope has been Hijacked! Save Zope!
Date sent:              Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:03:47 -0600

> Thanks Andrew for a heartfelt description of what is happening here. 
> 
> It is clear that unlike the other freeware products like Lenux,
>  JBoss.., Zope has lost all of the advantages of being a freeware
>  product. 
> 
> What I find sad is that the extreme commercialization of Zope is
> hurting Zope- this discussion list is censored in a way that would not
> be allowed for most commercial products.
> 
> 
> I posted a serious bug- Zope throws an exception after trying to
> resolve a transaction conflict three times. The discussion was quickly
> moved
> 
> line and I was told this is not a problem- Not a problem? Give me a
> break!! This nearly killed my application and cost me several weeks of
> work.
> 
> Those who know of these problems can write clean applications but
> these issues are kept strictly confidential. 
> 
> To the *TRUE* open source community I would just say
> let us reclaim Zope-even if it means branching.
>                       Clark
> 
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