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On Apr 24, 2009, at 16:35 , Chris Withers wrote:
> Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
>> Sorry Chris, but that's exactly the method you use every single time.
>> You complain very loudly and expect others to come to your help and
>> fix stuff without doing any debugging yourself, even though you are
>> perfectly capable of doing so.
> What? So it's out of order of me to ask for whoever made this change
> actually speak up and say what they did?
You're not out of order for speaking up. Not at all. However, you're
the only person with a deep Zope knowledge who expects that other
people do the debugging for him.
The whole assumption that a specific committer somehow remembers that
a specific code change he or she made breaks whatever you find to be
broken is faulty. It's very easy to work on one end of Zope and
inadvertently break something at the other end that may not be covered
well enough by tests. You cannot just expect that someone will speak
up and say "oh yeah, I broke standard_error_message". But you can
provide some serious help by doing debugging and pinpointing the
issue. The chance that someone will remember what they did and why
once you describe the underlying cause will be a lot larger. And they
will most likely fix it for you then.
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