From: Garrett Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 12:01 AM
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> Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Subject: RE: [Zope3-dev] Utility Registration was:RE:
> [Zope3-Users] pluggableauthentication utility
> I guess I'm not aware of anything that has anywhere near the
> configuration complexity of the PAU.
> > - I dont' like to have more then one implementation if not
> > absolutly needed only for configuration reason.
> I don't see this as a configuration issue. For most applications, the
> PAU is too flexible/powerful and I think this is source of lots of
> usability questions. A SimplePAU could be implemented using adaptation
> so that a new PAU type wouldn't be necessary.
Ok, that's right. But I don't like to support two concepts
for PAU. I think the users get confused again.
> > - The activation part on the registration process is still
> > the same. The most problem is that we implement components
> > where using the utility and lookup this utilities by a special
> > name or unnamed. But nobody tells you what name should be used
> > during registration.
> I think the delineation is named vs. unnamed. I agree with Stephan and
> Jim that utilities that are used without names should not ask
> for names
> -- those that use names should require them. I would add (this has
> probably already been added, don't recall) a utility should have some
> way of communicating that interface or interfaces that it could be
> registered for. E.g. it doesn't make much sense to register
> the PAU for
> But to reiterate -- the PAU registration does *not* accept a
> name value
> and does *not* let the user register for anything other than
> IAuthentication. I haven't heard anyone complain about the
> issues of PAU since that change.
> > I still think a policy (somthing like a add wizard) whould solve
> > the problem. Developers can develope the registration process in
> > a pytho class and register tehm as a "utilityPolicy". Then
> > administrators or scripters can add the utility witha simple klick
> > on a "add predefined utility" button.
> This sounds like a lot of work for the developer.
> > On nice sideeffect whould be,
> > You could also add a policy "Add all utility I need for a site".
> > Or even call this policy during makeSite on your special
> > implementation of IPossibleSite.
> I do like this idea. This is in the spirit of the server bootstrap
> module that ensures that a particular set of utilties are
> available and
> configured on startup.
> I definitely think something likethis is needed for the "Make a Site"
> So, perhaps something like this:
> title="My Site"
> description="Create my cool new site."
> configurator=".configMySite" />
> This would setup a menu and register an adapter to something like
> ISiteConfig that would be used to configure a newly created site.
Perhaps we can solve the PAU problem with a IFactory called
CreateSimplePAU and this factory can add and configure the PAU.
Can we use a factory class for creating utilities?
> -- Garrett
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