On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:32:52 -0800, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Like it or not, Zope (2) seems to have a lot of stigma out there; Zope 3 has been around a while. In actual fact, for a while I thought Zope 3.x was still just unfinished vapourware, waiting for the fabled Zope2 integration (the dropping of the X) that people were talking about.

The way it was done was also incredibly unprofessional and created a lot of confusion:

Quoting from http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/Zope320:

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It is our opinion that Zope 3 is more than ready for production use, which is why we decided to drop the X for experimental from the name.

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Problem is, the X was never about whether Zope was "ready for production use" - it had been *explicitly assigned* as a marker that meant Zope 2 migration/support was not there yet. A lot of people actually believed this would happen (as the Zope roadmap and PR spiel told them so), even though all of us knew it wouldn't happen.

(I know the reasons, I know the plans for convergence, I know how Five works - I'm just pointing out that this part made a lot of people lose faith in Zope)

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