Hi all, here is a callout for input on creating a zope livebook. I have familiarized myself with docbook and am gung ho. I am fairly new to zope3, so I will not be much help with content. I will be good at trying out things and keeping the document up to date.
I decided to go with darcs for now, we can move to svn if darcs doesn't work for most people. I have a repo at z3book.unstate.ca. You can do: "darcs get http://z3book.unstate.ca" to get the book (but there's nothing there!). For now I am hoping to get suggestoins on how the book should be laid out. What about something like: << preface >> << Basic Usage >> << Framework Overview >> << Common Development Patterns >> << Content Components >> I really have no clue. I was hoping that a zope3 guru could suggest how the parts could be best laid out. It seems to me that it is very tricky to have an encyclopedic resource for power users as well as easy to follow trails for newbies who are likely to get lost in the woods. I like the idea of trails (do the java tutorials still do this?). If a newbie wants to explore the forest that is zope 3, she will want to use the most well worn trails first and be confident to return home before it gets dark. Later, when she gets a sense of the lay of the land, she can venture deep on longer and less well-used tracks. I have followed a bit of the discussion regarding example apps. I really appreciated Benji York's "Hello World" app. It was easy to follow and left me feelling less overwhelmed than the Zope 3 Tutorial or the Zope 3 Book by Stephen Richter (I got lost and scared and have not gone back - though to be fair they are still the best on-line sources for more in depth zope 3 info). It also did a good job covering topics in just enough detail. I also appreciated that it was relatively up to date (Zope 3.2 apha?). Good examples could serve to as a guide to how to layout this book. Topics could be introduced gradually as the examples become more complicated. Also, topics could be covered in more detail as examples are shown which best demonstrate their use. Anyway, let me know what you think. For right now ideas on overall layout and a progression of example apps would be most appreciated. For those of you who have already authored tutorials, books, articles, tips, etc. It would be most excellent if you could offer them up (permission to use and alter, etc). Icing on the cake would be if you could suggest where in the zope 3 book you envision seeing your info. A cherry on top would be if you could update the information for the current release. Thanks and good night. Paul Dumais _______________________________________________ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3firstname.lastname@example.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users