On Wednesday 07 November 2007, Jeff Shell wrote: > So now I see all that's going on with Zope 3 and I still don't > understand a thing about how to move forward. We have about twelve > active customers deployed on Zope 3, on top of one or two large > frameworks that we've built on top if Z3. We still use the basic > 'instance home' layout. We don't use eggs - we just check things out > directly into the instance home. Even stuff from the Zope community, > because it's easier to do that than to even get workingenv or any of > these other things running. > > I'm still lost about what to do. Grok is of no use to us at the > moment. Many of these apps have been up and running for longer than > Grok's been alive. Is there any kind of migration documentation out > there? Or have these new ways of doing things been in use for so long > that most people have just rolled along with them? I just don't have > the time. I scarcely have time to keep up with the lists (which is > obvious since I haven't read a thing for nearly three months).
Hi Jeff, last time I promised I would be more responsive to your mails, so here you go. :-) First of all, let me say that I have no system in production yet, which uses eggs. I think only Lovely Systems and Zope Corp. do; and maybe some smaller applications. So I would not worry about not being up-to-date. In fact, the last stable release is still 3.3.1, which tells the story of the big Zope 3 tree. That said, have you seen my Zope 3.4.0b2 announcement _? It was the first public announcement making people aware that eggs are really happening. I purposefully did not say that Zope 3.4 will be the last tarball release, because (a) I think we cannot abandon people that quickly and (b) it is now really easy to create a new tarball release thanks to a couple of scripts I wrote. In the Zope 3.4.0b2 announcement I also sketched out two ways projects can be built using eggs, buildout and recipes. That said, writing a comprehensive migration document is still one of the tasks that need to be done. I was really hoping that the community would step up in writing one. I think that Darryl's response to your mail is a great start actually. It could easily be used as a starting point. ..  http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-users/2007-November/007106.html Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training _______________________________________________ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3email@example.com http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users