On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 09:50 +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On 6/27/06, John Schinnerer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a basic principle of design that works (as opposed to design > > that fails to work). > > Start small and work the edges outwards. > > The "work edges outwards" that works is often modular in nature (perhaps > > a.k.a. 'micro-sites'). > > That doesn't mean it can't look-and-feel like "one big site as access > > point." > > > > Biting off more than one (person, organization, whatever) can chew > > usually results in choking... > > Exactly my points. > > > So I actually see a lot of agreement in what may appear to be argument. > > Well, the proposal is to start only with the accesspoint (and the > origonal proposal did not contain anything else than the access point, > and also proposed it to be interim, for some reason). This is not true Lennart. I'm not going to keep arguing with you; but I think it was clear from what I originally sent this is not as you describe it. Of course, I wrote it - and maybe I'm thinking more to myself about what I mean then saying it.
> We can't start > with only the accesspoint, as we would have no product listing and ... I wonder how all the other successful projects out there manage to not have an arbitrary products listing managed in their sites. PHP, JAVA, RoR, Python, ad nauseum. I just don't see how it's the sole stopping point. Write the 'Zope product' management software and expose it as a service - put it on the site. Nearly everyone uses Google to find anything they care about anyhow. No one said bag the collectors. Rewrite http://www.zope.org/Collectors/ to collectors.zope.org and that's done. > no collector other than at old.zope.org, which would be completely > bizarre. We have to start, as a minimum, with creating a > products.zope.org and a collector.zope.org (or maybe rather > bugs.zope.org) before we can replace www.zope.org. > None of this is hard to do. It should be doable in a couple of days worth of > work, in > any case less than a week. Are you volunteering to do those two things in the next week? If so, then maybe we can move forward if the foundation has interest. Andrew _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )