Hi Eddie,

Hope David (or someone else) can chime in on the docker question, as that is 
quite unknown territory for me.

For the 1.0, we are currently working on getting the sessions re-worked.
This would make the admin working again, and gets us a lot closer to merging 
cotonic into zotonic.

Then we would need to:

 - Merge in some changes from 0.x
 - Fix uploads of files
 - Tests
 - Update the docs (so people don’t get too confused)

At this point we are postponing major UI changes.
Only the logon/logout forms will see quite some changes, as they interact with 
the new transports and session management.

After the first release we will add deeper integration of the new UI (Cotonic) 
code and security system.

I still hope to get quite far by February.
However, got some high priority projects during this period which might push it 
to March.

Cheers, Marc




> On 28 Jan 2019, at 18:32, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Hello Marc,
> 
> 
> 1. Do you have a date yet for 1.0?
> 
> I am trying to build a zotonic image to run on digital oceon. Once I can see 
> it running in a manually created droplet I want to build and save an image on 
> digital oceon using hashicorp Packer
> then I can build a webserver using hashicorp terraform. Trying to get a 
> repeatable build setup using Hashicorps popular tooling.
> 
> I have installed the basics using
> 
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get install build-essential git erlang imagemagick postgresql
> I have not carried out any extra configuration on this digitaloceon server at 
> all - its just the basic docker + ubuntu 18.04 and I am running as root. 
> (I will delete this droplet as soon as I have zotonic working and build a 
> more secure basic server)
> 
> 2. I just tried getting zotonic running in a basic digitaloceon droplet 
> running docker on ubuntu 18.04 using the cmd below from the zotonic docs.
> it fails like this... 
> root@docker-s-1vcpu-1gb-lon1-01:~/zotonic# docker run -v 
> `pwd`:/opt/zotonic/user/sites -p 8443:8443 zotonic/zotonic-heavy
> + HOME=/tmp
> + ZOTONIC_PIDFILE=/tmp/zotonic.pid
> + ZOTONIC_CONFIG_DIR=/etc/zotonic
> + SHELL=/bin/sh
> + export HOME ZOTONIC_PIDFILE ZOTONIC_CONFIG_DIR SHELL
> + touch /run/zotonic.pid
> + chown zotonic /run/zotonic.pid
> + mkdir /opt/zotonic/priv
> + chown -R zotonic /opt/zotonic/priv
> + chown -R zotonic /opt/zotonic/_build/default/lib/mimetypes/ebin
> chown: /opt/zotonic/_build/default/lib/mimetypes/ebin: No such file or 
> directory
> + chown -R zotonic /opt/zotonic/_build/default/lib/zotonic_site_status/priv/
> chown: /opt/zotonic/_build/default/lib/zotonic_site_status/priv/: No such 
> file or directory
> + sed -i -e s/{password, ""}/{password, ""}/ /etc/zotonic/zotonic.config
> + exec /usr/bin/gosu zotonic /opt/zotonic/bin/zotonic start-nodaemon
> 2019-01-28 17:09:07.467 UTC [9] LOG:  listening on IPv4 address "127.0.0.1", 
> port 5432
> 2019-01-28 17:09:07.468 UTC [9] LOG:  could not bind IPv6 address "::1": 
> Address not available
> 2019-01-28 17:09:07.468 UTC [9] HINT:  Is another postmaster already running 
> on port 5432? If not, wait a few seconds and retry.
> 2019-01-28 17:09:07.471 UTC [9] LOG:  listening on Unix socket 
> "/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432"
> 2019-01-28 17:09:07.476 UTC [9] LOG:  listening on Unix socket 
> "/tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432"
> 2019-01-28 17:09:07.530 UTC [55] LOG:  database system was shut down at 
> 2019-01-23 17:31:35 UTC
> 2019-01-28 17:09:07.534 UTC [9] LOG:  database system is ready to accept 
> connections
> Zotonic has not been compiled and cannot run. Exiting.
> 2019-01-28 17:09:12.870 UTC [9] LOG:  received smart shutdown request
> 3. Installing from git it fails with this after running bin/zotonic debug (it 
> compiles OK with erlang 20.0)
> 16:56:36.867 [info] Application zotonic_notifier started on node 
> 'zotonic001@docker-s-1vcpu-1gb-lon1-01'
> 16:56:36.867 [info] Application zotonic_core started on node 
> 'zotonic001@docker-s-1vcpu-1gb-lon1-01'
> 16:56:36.906 [error] CRASH REPORT Process exec with 0 neighbours exited with 
> reason: bad return value: "Port program 
> /root/zotonic/_build/default/lib/erlexec/priv/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/exec-port 
> with SUID bit set is not allowed to run without setting effective user!" in 
> gen_server:init_it/6 line 357
> 16:56:36.906 [error] Supervisor exec_app had child exec started with 
> exec:start_link([]) at undefined exit with reason bad return value: "Port 
> program 
> /root/zotonic/_build/default/lib/erlexec/priv/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/exec-port 
> with SUID bit set is not allowed to run without setting effective user!" in 
> context start_error
> 16:56:36.906 [error] CRASH REPORT Process <0.310.0> with 0 neighbours exited 
> with reason: {{shutdown,{failed_to_start_child,exec,{bad_return_value,"Port 
> program 
> /root/zotonic/_build/default/lib/erlexec/priv/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/exec-port 
> with SUID bit set is not allowed to run without setting effective 
> user!"}}},{exec_app,start,[normal,[]]}} in application_master:init/4 line 134
> 16:56:36.907 [error] zotonic:49 Zotonic start error: 
> {{shutdown,{failed_to_start_child,exec,{bad_return_value,"Port program 
> /root/zotonic/_build/default/lib/erlexec/priv/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/exec-port 
> with SUID bit set is not allowed to run without setting effective 
> user!"}}},{exec_app,start,[normal,[]]}}
> 16:56:36.907 [info] Application erlexec exited with reason: 
> {{shutdown,{failed_to_start_child,exec,{bad_return_value,"Port program 
> /root/zotonic/_build/default/lib/erlexec/priv/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/exec-port 
> with SUID bit set is not allowed to run without setting effective 
> user!"}}},{exec_app,start,[normal,[]]}}
> Many thanks
> Edlay
> 
> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 4:53:17 PM UTC, Marc Worrell wrote:
> Hi Eddie and Lloyd,
> 
> “It depends” is indeed the correct answer...
> 
> Most Zotonic installations fall in two categories:
> 
> 1. Deployment via a Docker container, which is updated before deployment
> 2. Deployment via git (manual or automatic)
> 
> Some follow (1),  I follow (2).
> 
> Nice thing of (2) is that it allows for hot code upgrades and quick 
> turnaround of small patches.
> When we are i a development cycle for new features we might have 10 to 20 
> deployments per day.
> This goes very smooth, we even deploy minor updates to Zotonic and 
> dependencies using hot code upgrades.
> 
> Zotonic itself can watch changes in the file system and dynamically load new 
> files.
> 
> Most of the updates we deploy have only minor changes.
> Think of changes to templates, css, or translations.
> And minor Erlang changes (ie. not completely new apps or other dependencies).
> That is why we can have updates-via-git without service interruption.
> 
> The orgs that deploy via Docker (option 1) - have typically less frequent 
> updates and perform periodic major updates.
> As the whole container is updated this also restarts the Zotonic server.
> 
> Of course it is also possible to deploy using the OTP release mechanism.
> This is something that will be possible with the 1.0 (really soon now) of 
> Zotonic, as that version is OTP compliant.
> I personally never had the need to use OTP releases as the version control 
> via git is good enough for us.
> (Especially with rebar3 managing versions of dependencies.)
> 
> 
> Cheers, Marc
> 
> 
>> On 14 Jan 2019, at 17:40, [email protected] <> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Eddie,
>>  
>> I'm in a similar situation--- planning soon to release a Nitrogen web 
>> application but feeling profound apprehension since I don't have a clear 
>> understanding of risks and how to minimize them.
>>  
>> No doubt the flip answer is, "It depends..." Are we talking cloud hosting or 
>> on-premises? What are projected traffic patterns? Etc. Etc.
>>  
>> But "It depends..." doesn't help folks like us who lack experience or 
>> organizational support.
>>  
>> One can find considerable information on the web covering firewalls, proxy 
>> servers, load balancers, site hardening, etc. But, like you, I've found 
>> little in the Erlang corpus that provides sufficiently clear patterns and 
>> guidelines to assuage my Erlang release/production apprehensions.
>>  
>> It may well be a book-length topic or more, but even a thoughtful, thorough 
>> tutorial, or even a checklist, would be helpful.
>>  
>> Please do let me know what you come up with.
>>  
>> All the best,
>>  
>> Lloyd
>>  
>>  
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <>
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 9:28am
>> To: "Zotonic developers" <[email protected] <>>
>> Subject: [Zotonic-Dev] zotonic CI deployment best practice for 2019
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I have followed zotonic for the last couple of years and am now interested 
>> in setting up a production server for zotonic.
>> I have just spent some time searching zotonic users and zotonic developers 
>> for an up to date guide on how you would go about developing and deploying 
>> zotonic to a production environment.
>> most of the links I found range from between 2010 - 2012.
>> I have looked through the zotonic documentation as well.
>> I have also installed locally using the zotonic full docker container and 
>> the manual install.
>> I am looking for a guide for Git / continuous integration / continuous 
>> deployment guide and any best practice tips.
>> Is something like this available?
>> Many thanks
>> Eddie L
>> (Uk based)
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