In general, my philosophy is manual = bad, automated = good. And this definitely applies to maintaining the site topology and replication connections. Unless you have special replication needs (e.g. firewalls, not fully connected network, etc), doing it manually is never the preferred approach. We have over 400 sites and 90 DCs and replication problems have been the least of our worries.
Robbie Allen http://www.rallenhome.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Manual Replication - Any suggestions? > > > Wow. Can't say that I ever expected to hear someone say that. With > autogeneration you basically need network link cost and replication > schedule time per site link which should be far less > configuration than > manually configuring replication connections. Even with a centralized > method of managing creation of sites which we have (basic perl scripts > that also create the site links) I don't see how it would ease the > creation of replication connections. Especially if you have a failure > and need to start repointing connections. > > Say you have 9 domains with 400 DC's spread across say about 300 sites > with DC's and having another 200 sites that you simply need site links > for calculating best (closest) coverage with a fairly simple 3 hub hub > and spoke deployment you would have just over 500 site links but > thousands of connection objects (800 alone if each DC only replicated > with one other DC which obviously isn't feasible when you consider GC > partitions (and intrasite replication if you care about > latency)). Much > easier, I would think, to manage the 500 links versus the thousands of > connections. Especially considering the amount of work required for > reconfiguration if a bridgehead blows in a hub site is sit back and > watch the reconfiguration of connections. > > By any chance could you explain your forest in terms of number of > domains and dc's and sites? Also do you have a really complicated > network structure where you have to pump replication down specific > spanning trees to get from one end to the other? I am curious > as to the > kind of layout that could cause this kind of mindset on managing > connections versus links. > > thanks, joe > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Merry, Joel (US > - Philadelphia) > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Manual Replication - Any suggestions? > > > Even with the updated KCC algorithm, I'm still a fan of manual > replication links. Even relying upon auto-generation, you > still need to > properly configure costing and all that fun jazz. And if > you're going to > go through all of that, why not configure everything > manually? The only > reason I can think of not doing it is if you don't have a centralized > way to manage the creation of new sites (and potentially bridges > depending on your network configuration) so you don't have to worry > about sites being orphaned -- but considering the size of your > environment, I would think you do. > > -Joel > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dean Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:56 PM > To: AD mailing list (Send) > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Manual Replication - Any suggestions? > > That requires forest functional level 1 which would prevent > the presence > of any 2000 DCs in any domain within the forest (NT4 Ds are > permissible) > ... if the lack of Windows 2000 is feasible, the new ISTG (in both my > own and Microsoft's internal tests) would easily fulfill your > requirements. > > -- > Dean Wells > MSEtechnology > * Tel: +1 (954) 501-4307 > * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://msetechnology.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Salandra, Justin > A. > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:43 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Manual Replication - Any suggestions? > > > What about upgrading your servers to Windows Server 2003, the ISTG in > W2K3 can handle up to 3,000 sites tested, 5,000 in theory. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jef Kazimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:51 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [ActiveDir] Manual Replication - Any suggestions? > > I'm currently working at a company where we have 115 international > sites, > and 3 domains. The KCC and ISTG are working sub-optimal, > and it seems > on > MS's advice we are going to calculate a manual replication connection > model. > > Anyone have any experience this, and have any gotcha's we should be > expecting? > > Thanks, > > Jef > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > > > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential > information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is > protected by law. 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