RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification

[Gil Kirkpatrick]

Hey Rocky,   Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!   Sorry, just had to get that out of my system. Most people on the list won't have a clue as to what I'm talking about anyway...   In any case, how do increased operational costs and overhead not qualify as "harm"? I'm confused by your question...   -gil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rocky Habeeb Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:03 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification "Where's the harm?" Don't tell me about economics or overhead or other things. Tell me where the "harm" is. Please.   RH _________________________________   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:49 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification Jef,   We don’t have a root domain because somebody smarter than I made that decision before I took over.  I was convinced at the time we had made a mistake, but like you have come to the opposite conclusion. J   AL   Al Maurer Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information Technology Agilent Technologies (719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639 http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jef Kazimer Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:51 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification   Al,   If you had asked me in the year 2000, I could see issues that would drive a root domain to anchor multiple domains.  I would caution against it now.  I believe MS had the same stance, and now thinks it may not make as much sense as it once did.   Maybe they should re-evaluate their service offerings. :)  I admit I was wrong :)   Jef > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification > Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:03:19 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > Mark, > > I'm in the same place you are: single forest, single domain, but 30 DCs in a global deployment with 45k users and 37k computers.  Ran that way for 6 years. > > Now we've sold off a business unit of a couple thousand users and they outsourced to a big 3rd party service provider who insisted they go with an empty root.  I recommended against it, but the sourcer (whose initials are E.D.S.) claimed the configuration was supported by Microsoft and they that had run it by Microsoft for "approval." > > I think what it boils down to is that this is their standard service and that's that.  The guys I'm working with are quite knowledgeable and good at what they do, but they're the front line people and not the deep-thinking architects we find at DEC. > > AL > > Al Maurer  > Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services  > IT | Information Technology  > Agilent Technologies  > (719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639  > http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com  > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Parris > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:37 AM > To: ActiveDir.org > Subject: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification > > Does anyone have any official documentation as to the justification for a root place holder, pro's and con's ? > > Where I am - I have started at one domain and can see no reason to expand on that - they only have 6 DC's now in a single domain - yet the partner they have chosen is recomending a root place holder with 5 DC's and then 8 in the child domain (they are NOT even supplying the tin) and I wanted some decent amo - a little bit stronger than schema and Ent admin separation. > > I know at DEC the concensus was the desire to eliminate and I believe Guido and Wook have stated this for the past two DEC's > > I have searched this list and can find no relevant articles. > > Many thanks > > Regards > > Mark > List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ    : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ    : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/   Join the next generation of Hotmail and you could win the adventure of a lifetime Learn More.