<shamelss plug>

NetPro has an AD data recovery product called RestoreADmin that competes
very well with the Quest product. It's solves the AD object recovery
problem nicely.

See http://www.netpro.com/products/restoreadmin/index.cfm.

</shameless plug>

-gil

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Todd, thanks for your insight. Good points to think about. 


James Masters
Systems Architecture and Engineering
The Kroger Co.
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Same here... Good stuff.

To be fair though, most of the major AD players have these tools now.
The thing about the Quest (Aelita) tool was its use of their own APIs to
address issues like Domain Local Groups etc.  I haven't kept up with the
latest versions so I am not sure what direction they have gone since
2003.
Latest information I remember was they offered you the option to use the
MS API methods for recovery, or their special brew for more advanced
recovery options.

Now if put some extra effort into your query, you might get this thread
nice and hot, and generate input from people like Stuart Kwan discussing
supportability issues using the various recovery methods, Guido &
Vladimir
discussing in great depth the inherent problems of group recovery,
various
opinions on how to use isolates sites with rubber chickens, MIIS, ADAM
to
reanimate deleted objects (This seems to be a favorite topic of Gil's to
use to fill in spots at DEC)... did I forget anyone... hmm maybe Robbie
might take time away from work on his fields medal or latest cookbook to
write you a Monad shell script that Joe will find a way to compile into
a
.exe to execute from a ADFIND query pipe.  

In all seriousness though, when evaluating DR feature for AD you will
have
a lot of things to consider, technologies being just one.  The nature of
the type of AD objects you want to recover and in what state should be
considered (Groups, GPO's, etc, attribute data).  How much time you want
to dedicate to this operation?  How much you want to spend? And who will
support you if the recovery operations fail or seem to cause more
problems.

If you are looking just to recover deleted users, the various free tools
out there will do just fine.

I highly recommend that you start your DR project today by just using
the
good'old MS backup utility at a minimum to make a MST formatted backup
of
the system state and data from a domain controller in each of your
domains
you think has the most current AD data in your organization.  That
pretty
much guarantees you can recover every object given that you have the
data
in some backup.

And to all the people I mentioned above.  Happy Holidays... and New
Year.

Todd

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Hi James

We bought this when it was an Aelita tool and loved the product - it
pretty much paid for itself in one step the second month we were using
it.
The product is still good but I have nothing good to say about Quest
support (but I could complain for hours about it if I am allowed to).

There are a couple of other similar ones that may also be worth.

Regards;

James R. Day
Active Directory Core Team
Office of the Chief Information Officer
National Park Service
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202-230-2983 (CEL)
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Does anybody have anything particularly good or bad to say about Quest's
Recovery Manager product?

We are evaluating it for an 2 forests, and 3 domains.

As always, thanks for all of your insight and expertise.

-James
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