The reason they didn't develop this for AIX first is because TSM is
developed for the broadest user community first.  Everybody knows EMC
and Solaris is practically inseparable.


--
Joshua S. Bassi
Sr. Solutions Architect @ rs-unix.com
IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark
Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM
Cell (415) 215-0326

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Denis L'Huillier
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 6:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LANFREE Backups - Feedback?

Also, as an fyi...
Tivoli also informed us that TDP for oracle on EMC is not supported when
TSM is running on
an AIX RS/6000.. Kinda funny huh?  It's actually only supported for
Oracle
databases running on a
Solaris system and TSM ALSO must be running on Solaris.  Don't vendors
usually make things work for
their products first then make it compatible with other systems?  I
think
IBM/Tivoli forgot to get together
on this one.  And, from what I understand, which may not be accurate...
The
TDP for EMC Oracle is used
only for backing up a BCV (Business Continuity Volume - like a ESS flash
copy).  So, to use the TDP you can
do online backups of a copied volume... hmmmm... no thanks.

Regards,

Denis L. L'Huiller
973-360-7739
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enterprise Storage Forms ->
http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html



                    J Bamford
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Backups - Feedback?
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                    03/05/2002 05:14
                    AM
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                    to "ADSM: Dist
                    Stor Manager"






I think a little clarification is needed.

LAN-free with the B/A client does Backup and Restore through the SAN.
Also
the API client can do backup/restore through the SAN.

I understand there is one TDP product for EMC using the timefinder
function
that backs up LAN-free, but must restore over the LAN.  All other
products
do not have this limitation.

I say again this limitation is on the TDP EMC/Oracle, and does not
effect
LAN-free as a whole.

Jason Bamford
Tivoli Software
Pan-EMEA Storage Product Specialist
IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jozef Zatko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: LANFREE Backups - Feedback?


> Petur,
> you say that restores with SAN agent go through LAN regardles of
> configuration. Is it true???
> According to doc, restores should also go through SAN. Or is it
something
> special with Connectrix?
> Or am I missing something?
>
> Ing. Jozef Zatko
> Login a.s.
> Dlha 2, Stupava
> tel.: (421) (2) 60252618
>
>
>
>
> Petur Ey?orsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 05.03.2002 09:42
> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
>
>
>         To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         cc:
>         Subject:        Re: LANFREE Backups - Feedback?
>
>
> hi Denis
>
> if you ask for my opinion i do not recomend lanfree backups, why thats
> spimle when you do a restore it dosn?t matter if your using san or not
> youre
> restore data always goes trough the lan. and that?s bad, then you have
> lost
> 75% of your reason to have lanfree backups, because what is here that
> relay
> matters. It is your restore time, and that will stay exacly the same.
>
> This bug will not be fixed until TSM V 5.1 comes out.
>
>
> Kvedja/Regards
> Petur Eythorsson
> Taeknimadur/Technician
> IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
> Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional
> Microsoft Certified System Engineer
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  Nyherji Hf              Simi TEL: +354-569-7700
>  Borgartun 37            105 Iceland
>  URL:                    http://www.nyherji.is
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
> Denis L'Huillier
> Sent: 4. mars 2002 20:24
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: LANFREE Backups - Feedback?
>
>
> Hello,
> We are currently evaluating the implementation of lanfree backups in
our
> environment.
> I understand the conceptual benefits of sending data across the SAN
vs.
> the
> LAN/WAN but
> am concerned with compatibility issues with our IBM TSM Environment
and
> EMC
> Connectrix Environment.
> Has anybody implemented LANFREE in a similar environment?
> Can anybody give some example or insight to real life advantages to
> implementing LANFREE backups?
> Are there any tape drive contention issues when a drive gets allocated
to
> a
> 'LANFREE' backup?
> How does TSM manage 'LANFREE' tapes? Does it dedicate a tape to a
client
> (like collocation) or will other
> clients have access to write data to the same volser?
> How about attaching a 3590 FC-AL to a EMC Connectrix Fabric?
> Any other tips would be greatly appreciated.
>
> TSM Environment:
> 1 H50, AIX 4.3.3 TSM 3.7 - SSA Disk
> 3494 2 Frames 4 Scsi Drives
> 1 H50, AIX 4.3.3 TSM 3.7 - SSA Disk
> 3494 2 Frames 4 Scsi Drives
> 1 H50, AIX 4.3.3 TSM 3.7 - SSA Disk
> 3494 5 Frames 6 Scsi Drives
> 1 H80, AIX 4.3.3 TSM 4.1 - SSA Disk
> 3494 6 Frames 6 Scsi Drives
>
> SAN Environment:
> EMC Symmetrix ( 8730, 8830, 4 3930's, 3700 )
> EMC Connectrix - 12 Switches
>
> Client/Server Environment:
> 600 + Servers (HPUX, Solaris, NT, Win2K)
> approx 200 EMC SAN attached. (No BCV's used or SRDF.. yet)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Denis L. L'Huiller
> 973-360-7739
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Enterprise Storage Forms ->
> http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html


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