Stephen Reed wrote: > > The idea of goals is ... not ... applicable to general >> intelligence in any meaningful way. The entire approach that it >> suggests is that it focuses only on one tiny subsystem of human >> cognitive function and neglects the vast aparatus which orchistrates >> our behavior. I have been thinking about writing a post to discuss and >> promote an engineering approach to AGI... =\
> In disagreement with this point in particular and with your overall > dissatisfaction with the SIAI Friendly AI doctrine, I immediately saw > the wisdom and applicability of a deliberative causal goal system as > the principle for ensuring that Cyc becomes a safe AGI - should we > first achieve it. Aaah! Real discussion. =) I don't think there is any danger whatsoever of Cyc becoming an AGI. ;) The fact that you so clearly see goals as being applicable to Cyc proves that cyc is not a general AI. This test works but for what I have given so far it is a bit circular... > Cycorp has an engineering approach to creating AI. >From what I've heard, CyC hasn't been about strong AI since the mid '80s. > We have made common the term Ontological Engineering for example. Which has no relevance to AGI because an AGI is a meta-ontological system. You merely have the most extensive expert system database in existance. > Although Brain Science may converge with AI and each field will > contribute to understanding the other, As has been happening for decades already. > Cyc is not at all engineered as a model of human cognitive processes, > rather we proceed from symbolic logic to develop an ambitious > vocabulary That approach is completely inadequate for producing a general intelligence. > to deductively reason about the full range of human concepts, That is impossible. For it to have such a capability it would need to be capable, if suitably stimulated, of producing something like: www.jabberwocky.com/carroll/walrus.html > and hopefully from there to use the vocabulary to manifest cognitive > behavior. Only in a limited way. -- I WANT A DEC ALPHA!!! =) 21364: THE UNDISPUTED GOD OF ALL CPUS. http://users.rcn.com/alangrimes/ [if rcn.com doesn't work, try erols.com ] ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
