The use of the terminology of mathematics is counter intuitive, if, what you want to say is that mathematical methods are inadequate to describe AGI systems (or something like that.) That is what I meant when I said that people don't always mean exactly what they seem to be saying. You are not really defining a mathematical system, and you are not trying to conclude that a specific presumption is illogical are you? Or are you? There is another problem. We can define sets so we can define things like a closed set of sets each containing infinities of objects.
However by qualifying your use of concepts like this and then appealing to a reasonable right to be understood *as you intended*, you can certainly use this kind of metaphor. That's my opinion. Jim Bromer On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Mike Tintner <tint...@blueyonder.co.uk>wrote: > I'd like opinions on terminology here. > > IMO the opposition of closed sets vs open sets is fundamental to the > difference between narrow AI and AGI. > > However I notice that these terms have different meanings to mine in maths. > > What I mean is: > > closed set: contains a definable number and *kinds/species* of objects > > open set: contains an undefinable number and *kinds/species* of objects > (what we in casual, careless conversation describe as containing "all kinds > of things"); the rules of an open set allow adding new kinds of things ad > infinitum > > Narrow AI's operate in artificial environments containing closed sets of > objects - all of wh. are definable. AGI's operate in real world environments > containing open sets of objects - some of wh. will be definable, and some > definitely not > > To engage in any real world activity, like "walking down a street" or > "searching/tidying a room" or "reading a science book/text" is to operate > with open sets of objects, because the next field of operations - the > next street or room or text - may and almost certainly will have > unpredictably different kinds of objects from the last. > > Any objections to my use of these terms, or suggestions that I should use > others? > > *agi* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com/> > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
