Ian, I recall several years ago that a group in Britain was operating just such a chatterbox as you explained, but did so on numerous sex-related sites, all running simultaneously. The chatterbox emulated young girls looking for sex. The program just sat there doing its thing on numerous sites, and whenever a meeting was set up, it would issue a message to its human owners to alert the police to go and arrest the pedophiles at the arranged time and place. No human interaction was needed between arrests.
I can imagine an adaptation, wherein a program claims to be manufacturing explosives, and is looking for other people to "deliver" those explosives. With such a story line, there should be no problem arranging deliveries, at which time you would arrest the would-be bombers. I wish I could tell you more about the British project, but they were VERY secretive. I suspect that some serious Googling would yield much more. Hopefully you will find this helpful. Steve ========= On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wanted to see what other people's views were.My own view of the risks is > as follows. If the Turing Machine is built to be as isomorphic with humans > as possible, it would be incredibly dangerous. Indeed I feel that the > biological model is far more dangerous than the mathematical. > > If on the other hand the TM was *not* isomorphic and made no attempt to > be, the dangers would be a lot less. Most Turing/Löbner entries are > chatterboxes that work on databases. The database being filled as you chat. > Clearly the system cannot go outside its database and is safe. > > There is in fact some use for such a chatterbox. Clearly a Turing machine > would be able to infiltrate militant groups however it was constructed. As > for it pretending to be stupid, it would have to know in what direction it > had to be stupid. Hence it would have to be a good psychologist. > > Suppose it logged onto a jihardist website, as well as being able to pass > itself off as a true adherent, it could also look at the other members and > assess their level of commitment and knowledge. I think that the > true Turing/Löbner test is not working in a laboratory environment but they > should log onto jihardist sites and see how well they can pass themselves > off. If it could do that it really would have arrived. Eventually it could > pass itself off as a "*peniti*" to use the Mafia term and produce > arguments from the Qur'an against the militant position. > > There would be quite a lot of contracts to be had if there were a realistic > prospect of doing this. > > > - Ian Parker > > On 7 August 2010 06:50, John G. Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com> wrote: > >> > Philosophical question 2 - Would passing the TT assume human stupidity >> and >> > if so would a Turing machine be dangerous? Not necessarily, the Turing >> > machine could talk about things like jihad without >> ultimately identifying with >> > it. >> > >> >> Humans without augmentation are only so intelligent. A Turing machine >> would >> be potentially dangerous, a really well built one. At some point we'd need >> to see some DNA as ID of another "extended" TT. >> >> > Philosophical question 3 :- Would a TM be a psychologist? I think it >> would >> > have to be. Could a TM become part of a population simulation that would >> > give us political insights. >> > >> >> You can have a relatively stupid TM or a sophisticated one just like >> humans. >> It might be easier to pass the TT by not exposing too much intelligence. >> >> John >> >> > These 3 questions seem to me to be the really interesting ones. >> > >> > >> > - Ian Parker >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> agi >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >> > > *agi* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
