Neat idea. An annotation wouldn't work for things in JAR libraries,
however. Back when I tested ProGuard to see if it helped my frame
rates, I had to turn obfuscation off for some classes in JARs I use.

Not sure why, maybe the library used reflection or something. It
wasn't even a weird library, just one of the metrics or ads ones that
lots of people use.

The most powerful solution would be to just have a file field in the
project properties for a ProGuard config file to use. I guess since
people are complaining they can't use Ant, maybe they would complain
they can't edit config files on their own too, however.

On Sep 25, 5:40 am, Indicator Veritatis <mej1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> That is excellent information. Thank you for posting it.
>
> But there is one thing that surprises me as it is written, so I must
> ask for clarification: when you say, "there is no way we can figure it
> out programmatically[sic], do you mean that such is the case even when
> Proguard is integrated with ADT? Surely you can at least do most of
> them by identifying classes needed by AndroidManifest.xml by simply
> reading AndroidManifest.xml. Or are there many other classes that also
> need to be protected? From reading Dan's post, it seems the former
> were the main examples of classes that need to be protected.
>
> BTW: using the native method name as the name of the class sounds like
> it should be discouraged: obfuscation difficulties just might be
> discouragement enough;)
>
> I am not sure what you mean by "anything which has a constructor
> similar to a View", but it SOUNDS like you could introduce a decorator
> to simplify handling all of these special cases. "@no_obsfucation" is
> the name that occurs to me, but I am sure you can do better.
>
> On Sep 24, 6:00 am, Xavier Ducrohet <x...@android.com> wrote:
>
> > We are working on direct support in ADT/Ant. We just decided to
> > release a quick blog post on how to manually add this to Ant since
> > it's somewhat easy to do (unlike ADT).
>
> > However, proguard does need to know about which class to not obfuscate
> > and there is no way we can figure it out programmatically. Proguard
> > itself does try to detect reflection usage, but if it's too dynamic
> > (for instance the class/method/field to use by reflection is dynamic
> > and too complex to see where the value is coming from) it will fail.
>
> > The proguard config file shown in the Dan's blog post (a different Dan
> > btw) provides exclusion for the common cases:
> > - anything that extends Activity, Service, Application,
> > BroadcastReceiver, ContentProvider as those are referenced in the
> > manifest.
> > - anything that has native method as the name of the class is used to
> > find the native function name
> > - anything that has a constructor similar to a View, to no rename
> > custom views as their name are referenced in layouts
>
> > This should cover all the default cases. Now, if you do some fancy
> > reflection you will have some problem, and will have to tell proguard
> > what to not obfuscate, but there's nothing we can do about and any
> > obfuscators will have similar problems.
>
> > We are looking at implementing Proguard in ADT/Ant in a way that makes
> > it easy to plug a different obfuscator, so if you prefer a different
> > solution you will hopefully be able to use it, but I'm pretty sure
> > you'll have the same issues.
>
> > Unfortunately I can't give a release date for the next version, but we
> > usually try to release new tools every 2-3 months.
>
> > Xav
>
> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Indicator Veritatis <mej1...@yahoo.com> 
> > wrote:
> > > It is not just you. I was pretty disappointed when I read that post,
> > > too. I did get a kick out of seeing what a menacing appearance Dan has
> > > with his new beard and moustache, though;)
>
> > > I am amazed that Google seems to think it is acceptable to force the
> > > user to maintain two different build systems -- one for Eclipse and
> > > one for the recommended independent installation of Ant -- and also
> > > maintain a text file with a list of classes not to obfuscate. It is
> > > too obvious that this is a task ADT should be doing.
>
> > > But rather than run for the hills, we should pepper Google with
> > > uncomplimentary speculations concerning their motives for this "turd
> > > layering" until they 'fess up and give us a release date for a version
> > > of ADT that will allow us to include Proguard in an Eclipse build
> > > WITHOUT these problems.
>
> > > On Sep 22, 9:59 pm, JP <joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Just read the latest Android Developer blog 
> > >> post.http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/09/proguard-android-and-l...
> > >> Quite the beast. And Proguard cannot even be used with confidence
> > >> ("it’s still possible that in edge cases you’ll end up seeing
> > >> something like a ClassNotFoundException").
>
> > >> Is it just me getting irritated where this seems to be going?
> > >> In my more active days developing, pretty graphic slang was applies to
> > >> efforts like this: "Turd layering". Meaning: More dependencies, more
> > >> procedure, more sources of error, and it doesn't even work "right". In
> > >> of itself, adding innocent looking steps to a release procedure (for
> > >> some relatively obscure benefit) might be marginally worthwhile, but
> > >> in the bigger picture, releasing an app increasingly becomes a burden.
> > >> Dare you miss a step. Or try to teach somebody else how to go through
> > >> a release and verify it. Or you want to go and rebuild a development
> > >> environment. Or lose the ominous reference file (mapping.txt)...
>
> > >> Anybody care to disagree and convince me this all nice and dandy and
> > >> we don't have to literally run for the hills?
>
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>
> > Please do not send me questions directly. Thanks!

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