I will have to read the verse in
detail. I think Krishna states bothways:
Those who are born out of my head
are the Brahmins
Those who are born out of my
shoulder, are the Kshatriyas.
Those who are born out of my
stomach are the Vaishya.
Those who are born out of my feet
are the Sudras.
Can you check if above is
true.
Rajenda
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Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:17
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Subject: Re: [Assam] HPI, March 20,
2006
Rajen-da rote whether Gita would have to be revised to remove casteist
remarks - I do not recall any!! The only ones defining caste are in chapter 18
shlokas 41-44 -which are not basd on birth - but on gunas or a person's nature
and work or deeds. Manusmriti does perhaps needs to be overhauled - by ading
new commentaries etc.
A cursory reading of the VHP message is interesting. The fact they are
urging the rejection of castes is a good thing. But their reasons " in
the interest of consolidating Hindu unity to fight conversions and "Jehadi"
terror." is passe.
The shadow of casteism must be erdicated from Hinduism.
A good reason would be that all are treated equal within the religion. Of
course, there are numerous social advantages.
>Does it mean they will
revise the Gita, the Manusmriti and all those Hindu scirptures
now?
I don't think they can (and nor
are they claiming to). Whats written is written. Thats history. Hindus and
Hinduism must be able to transcend the negatives in Manusmriti. The Old
Testament (which has probably as many negatives in it) is not given
much relevance by mainstream Christians for this very reason.
>Manusmroti was written
around 1st or 2nd AD or before . It has nothing to do with
Jehadi
While this is true, the VHP is
probably thinking it needs to unite all Hindus against a possible "Jehadi"
onsluaght on Hinduism. The VHP is probably trying to make political hay
here. Nothing in the world of politics succeeds like dividing up people on
caste, religion, language. And sadly, it may work.
--Ram
On 3/20/06, Rajen
Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) and the Grama Koil Poojarigal Peravai
has rejected varnashrama (system of four castes)
Does it mean they will revise
the Gita, the Manusmriti and all those Hindu scirptures now?
>varnashrama dharma, supposedly written in Manusmrithi, in the
interest of consolidating Hindu unity to fight conversions and "Jehadi"
terror.
Why VHP is completely out of
touch with History and wants to expose its ignorance?
Manusmroti was written around
1st or 2nd AD or before . It has nothing to do with Jehadi.
Wake up VHP.
Wake up
Hindutva,
RB
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Subject: HPI, March 20, 2006
March 20, 2006
1. VHP Meeting Rejects Caste System
ERODE, INDIA, March 20, 2006: The fifth State Hindu Resurgence
Conference organized by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) and the Grama
Koil Poojarigal Peravai has rejected varnashrama (system of four castes)
and sought an end to the practice of untouchability. Addressing the
conference at the CNC College grounds on Sunday, VHP international
president Ashok Singhal said untouchability had no sanction in the Vedas
and dharma sasthras. Ancient history and mythology had no record on it.
Alien aggressions could have led to the practice. He also called upon
the heads of mutts (ashrams and theological centers) to give manthra
deeksha (mantra initiation) to all without discrimination. Mr. Singhal
said the VHP was outrightly rejecting varnashrama dharma, supposedly
written in Manusmrithi, in the interest of consolidating Hindu unity to
fight conversions and "Jehadi" terror.
Expressing concern over
the living conditions of grama temple pujaris, a resolution passed urged
the State to give them US$22.72 a month. The families should continue to
receive it after the pujaris' death. It sought free power supply to
rural temples. The State government should ensure financial assistance
for temple festivals and at least one puja, worship service, daily.
The resolution included a "Hindu Agenda" in the form of an
appeal to political parties. It sought exemption for temple land from
all land reforms legislation, a statutory autonomous board and a State
dharmic council for "better" administration of temples. It sought a ban
on conversions and cow slaughter and decried demands for reservation to
minorities (that is, extending affirmative action programs for Hindu
untouchables and tribals to Christians and Muslims). It sought an end to
discrimination on legal and constitutional lines in favor of minority
institutions. It urged the Centre (India's federal government) to
facilitate reconstruction of the Ram temple at Ayodhya and the State (of
Tamil Nadu) to withdraw all cases against the Kanchi Sankaracharya.
Expressing concern at the "declining Hindu population, which was
growing at 22 p er cent as against the growth of minority population at
35 per cent," it urged the Centre to bring in a uniform civil code by
implementing the directive principle under Article 44 of India's
Constitution.
2. Ancient Thailand Siva Temple To Experience Rare Alignment with
Sun
CHALERMPHRAKIAT DISTRICT, BURI RAM PROVINCE, THAILAND, March 20,
2006: In Hindu and Buddhist cosmology, mountains are believed to be
homes to the Gods. Prasat Hin Khao Phanom Rung, a magnificent temple
sanctuary set on the summit of Phanom Rung Hill, was built between the
10th and 13th centuries. According to the stone inscriptions in Sanskrit
and Khmer found at the site, the original name of the temple complex is
Phanom Rung, Khmer words meaning "big mountain." A religious sanctuary
dedicated to the Hindu God, Siva, Prasat Hin Khao Phanom Rung symbolizes
Mount Kailasa, the heavenly abode of Siva. Phanom Rung Hill rises 350
metres above the surrounding plain. Astrologers have predicted that an
extraordinary astro-archaeological phenomenon will occur at sunrise
during the April 3-5 period this year. The doors of the temple sanctuary
are so perfectly aligned that during this period, at sunrise on a
cloudless day with clear blue skies, the sun's rays will shin e through
all fifteen doorways of the sanctuary in a single shaft of light.
These magnificent man-made sandstone sanctuaries, often referred
to as palaces of the Gods, sit atop hills rising above the high plains
of I-san and still bear witness to the half millennium from the 9th to
14th centuries during which a powerful Khmer state flourished in the
region, including what is today northwestern Cambodia. These
extraordinary towers comprise elements of temple architecture meant to
symbolise Mount Meru, the mythical peak at the center of the
Hindu-Buddhist universe. Sometimes referred to as "high Cambodia," the
provinces of Buri Ram, Surin, Nakhon Ratchasima and Sisaket were a
perfect setting for the development of these Meru microcosms. Although
Thai folk belief once held that the larger, cruciform-plan monuments
served as palaces for Angkor's all-powerful kings, in fact these
buildings were designed as temporary abodes for Siva, Vishnu, Maitreya
and other Deities called to earth via religious ritual. To the east of
I-san's temple-dotted pl ateaus lay the river valleys of "low Cambodia,"
the heartland of Angkorean civilization where its kings resided.
A sacred "superhighway" linked Prasat Phimai with 12th-century
Angkor Wat, the largest and most complex of the Khmer temples. Angkor
rulers were at the time considered to be devaraja or "god-kings," and to
maintain that vaunted status they and their priests periodically
travelled between key monuments to perform complex ceremonies involving
fire, water, and Sivalingam. Monuments en route offered spiritual and
temporal support along these potentially arduous journeys, including 102
"houses with fire" and 121 "hospitals" or "healing stations"
(arokayasala). These structures became so important to the sanctity of
the Angkor empire that some 300 Khmer shrines were erected between the
7th and 13th centuries. Temple construction reached its zenith in the
12th and 13th centuries. For information on visiting these
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