>Also I have a question - the "Parliament" is called "Lok Sabha" t>oday.
What are the "Members of Parliament" called in Hindi, >other than MP?

I am guessing:

Parliament: Sabha
Lower House/House of Commons: Lok Sabha
Upper House/House of Lords: Rajya Sabha

--Ram



On 10/1/07, Dilip/Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I doubt whether some of the MPs are familiar with the constitution or are
> even aware that the government consists of three branches. Do the freshman
> MPs at least get some orientation in the first few weeks to understand the
> process of government?
> Probably some such training will help remove the stalemate. It is very
> hard to remove partisanship but it is possible to remove some of the
> hardness due to partisanship. There are issues where the nation comes above
> party politics and the debaters need to be aware of these. The
> parliamentarians of the past that the writer extols had this calber and the
> debates were meaningful.
> Also I have a question - the "Parliament" is called "Lok Sabha" today.
> What are the "Members of Parliament" called in Hindi, other than MP?
> Dilip
>
>
> FROM THE ASSAM TRIBUNE:
> *EDITORIAL*
> ------------------------------
> *Parliament withering away
> — Poonam I Kaushish*
> *W*e have been through all this before. Year after year. Of how India's
> Parliament is increasing being devalued. Crores of tax payers hard earned
> money being swept aside by the verbal torrent of puerile discourse that
> leads to walkouts, even near fisticuffs. Wherein the very protectors of this
> high temple of democracy have become its denigrators and destroyers.
>
> Of how in their "collective wisdom" our MPs have been spewing sheer
> contempt on Parliament, wittingly or unwittingly. Reducing it into an
> akhara, where politically motivated bashing has become the order of the day
> and agenda a luxury to be taken up when lung power is exhausted. Epitomising
> a cesspool of every thing that has gone wrong with India today! Testimony to
> this sharp decline was this year's shortest ever monsoon session of barely
> 17 days with the longest daily adjournments and hardly any work, a mere 64
> hours.
>
> Shockingly, the session, originally scheduled from 10 August till 14
> September, was hurriedly cut short and adjourned sine die four days earlier.
> No, not because of lack of agenda or legislative business. But due to the
> proceedings being disrupted in both Houses on a daily basis thanks to the
> stand-off between the Opposition and the Treasury benches on the Indo-US
> nuclear deal. The former demanding a JPC on the contentious subject and the
> latter adamantly declining.
>
> With the result that Parliament further lost credibility and prestige.
> Leading a much anguished Lok Sabha Speaker Somnath Chatterjee to State in
> his concluding remarks: "It is extremely disturbing that the highest public
> forum in the country has come to a standstill which has raised questions
> about the utility of our system of Parliamentary democracy and about its
> future." Raising a moot point: Is Parliament becoming irrelevant?
>
> That we are slowly but surely heading towards disaster is obvious. What
> troubles one is the new dimension to this age-old malaise. That it does not
> strike a chord among our MPs. Who largely continue to drift along smugly
> without thinking of what they have done to Parliament. Of how they have
> mauled it and continue to do so. Most distressing is that there is no sense
> of outrage or shame.
>
> The legislative business transacted during the session illustrates how
> "powerless" parliament has become in stemming the mounting rot. Let's start
> with the Question Hour, the hyphen which links Parliament to Government and
> ensures ministerial accountability. Distressingly out of the 380 starred
> questions listed, only 35 could be answered. Thus, on an average about
> 2.05 question were answered per day. Why? The MPs were too busy – rushing
> into the well of the House, raising slogans and preventing transaction of
> any business.
>
> Mindlessly, ignoring the fact that the hour, treated as sacrosanct in the
> House of Commons, belong to the private members and empowers them to push
> the Government and even it's Prime Minister into the dock. Any member can
> ask any question within the framework of the rules. This, according to
> constitutional experts, is what makes the Westminster model of Parliamentary
> democracy superior to all other systems. The crucial Question Hour
> consequently got "guillotined" time and again, notwithstanding the midnight
> oil burnt by various ministries preparing for the answers.
>
> Not only that. Incredibly, four Bills were passed by the House without any
> discussion whatsoever due to continuous interruptions. No one cared that the
> bills failed to meet the conventional parliamentary requirement of three
> readings. The first reading is done when the Minister moves for the bill's
> consideration and explains its philosophy and its broad parameters.
> Thereafter, the bill is closely thrashed out clause by clause in the second
> reading. The third and final reading is done when all the clauses and
> schedules, if any, have been considered and voted by the House and the
> Minister moves that the Bill be passed.
>
> Veterans recall Nehru's time when battles royal were fought during the
> second reading even over the placement of a comma! Surprised?
> Constitutionally and legally, the placing of a comma could make all the
> difference to the meaning of a clause. Lamented a Lok Sabha MP, "I worked
> long and hard preparing for speaking on one of the scheduled bills. All my
> effort is wasted. If one were to divide 64 hours by 17 sitting, only
> three-and-half days of concrete work have been transacted."
>
> As matters stand, Parliament has already been reduced to a farce. It has
> become an annual ritual to guillotine the demands for grants of various
> ministries totalling thousands of crores of rupees. What is more, the
> Treasury Benches are now increasingly using its brute majority to rubber
> stamp various policies trumpeted through ministerial fiats and ordinances.
> Remember, Parliament's greatest strength and utility lies in its control
> over the Treasury. This has been systematically eroded. Bringing things to
> such a pass that a party in power today has no qualms in pushing ahead with
> populist pronouncements at the drop of a hat. Even when that goes against
> all parliamentary norms.
>
> Parliament's all-round decline is today easily Delhi's best known secret.
> Everyone talks about it. Not a few lament over it. Be it the quality of
> leadership, brand of MPs, parliamentary standards and debating skills.
> Worse, everyone also knows the raison de atre of this sorry state of
> affairs: the all-pervasive corrupt-criminal nexus and the all-enveloping
> caste-creed and vote-bank paradigm. Nothing more, nothing less. Yet all
> willy nilly abet it.
>
> Ironically, even as Parliament withered, it was a win-win session for our
> MPs. Who earned hefty salaries, perks and innumerable freebies including
> free lunches in the historic Central Hall, India's most exclusive club, for
> shouting and playing truant. Normally, they should have been held
> accountable for their actions, as during the Nehru era. But no one seems to
> care anymore beyond shedding crocodile tears and indulging in boring
> rhetoric, as witnessed once more when the President presented Best
> Parliamentary awards to Sharad Pawar, Sushma Swaraj, P Chidambaram and Mani
> Shankar Aiyar.
>
> Parliamentary democracy can succeed only when the rules of the game are
> followed honestly. Constitutional and other steps therefore, need to be
> taken soonest to restore to our Parliament its functional glory as
> originally conceived. Bemoaned a senior CPI leader, "Parliament is being
> reduced to nothing. MPs are not doing their work but prefer to take
> allowances... the largest democracy is not functioning. This must be set
> right!"
>
> The monsoon session has sharply posed a bigger question mark than ever
> before over the future of India's parliamentary democracy. The issue is not
> just of our MPs making ones presence felt by muscle-flexing in the House of
> the People and in the Council of States or even intolerance of another's
> point of view. It is about upholding the highest standards of morality,
> credibility and dignity of Parliament. The MPs are servants of the people,
> not their masters.
>
> If Parliament is to function and regain its lost lustre among the people,
> the Government and the Opposition have to bury the hatchet of distrust. The
> Treasury and the Opposition benches are two sides of the democratic coin and
> must ensure orderly debate, discussion and functioning. Basically, the
> Opposition must have its say, even as the Government has its way. Else, it
> will lose its credibility and prestige. Worse, become redundant and
> irrelevant.
>
> Clearly, it is time to give serious thought to rectifying the flaws in our
> system and urgent overhauling. If necessary, rules should be drastically
> changed to put Parliament back on the rails. Indira Gandhi once wisely said:
> "Parliament is a bulwark of democracy. It has also a very heavy task of
> keeping an image that will gain it the faith and respect of the people.
> Because, if that is lost, then I don't know what could happen later." Time
> to heed her words and stop the drift towards disaster. INFA
>
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