Again sorry to be a pain
I am an ISP and see stuff like this all day long
people are not going to read email headers etc etc etc
email is very simplistic
the from address (not the reply address) needs to reflect the sender and
nothing else.
mscv, sendgrid etc are perfect email list companies that show as spam
because they play with the from address in the headers, not to mention
microsoft exchange adding a great big long string in the from address to
aid in message bounce backs, also the dkim signature is also based on
the from domain etc which is why those are bouncing?
take google for example
they want an spf record or dkim record now a days or it is spam and will
probably reject (see example below)
I went through this with a customer in december
again know this is techy but just trying to help.
we are a few days in and hitting all the basic email issues.
can groups.io (the new wiki system) be configured to interface to a
external email server (inbound and out?) - might be easier ?
_________________________________________________________________________
mail18 12-23 17:40:43 {postfix.out} [30103] (1860520863) Dec 23
17:40:43 mail18 postfix/smtp[30103]: 44FEC315F6F:
to=<mdcrot...@gmail.com>, relay=alt1
.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[142.250.128.27]:25, delay=2172,
delays=2171/0.03/0.96/0.21, dsn=4.0.0,
status=deferred (host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[142.250.128.27]
said: 450-5.7.26 This mail has been
blocked because the sender is unauthenticated. 450-5.7.26 Gmail requires
all senders to authenticate with
either SPF or DKIM. 450-5.7.26 450-5.7.26 Authentication results:
450-5.7.26 DKIM = did not pass
450-5.7.26 SPF [diamond-cladpower.com] with ip: [65.39.148.18] = did
not pass 450-5.7.26 450-5.7.26 For
instructions on setting up authentication, go to 450 5.7.26
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication
dp35-20020a0566381ca300b0046ce28c905esi2970974jab.17 - gsmtp (in reply
to end of DATA command))
_________________________________________________________________________
groups.io does have an spf record but also seems to be attached to
zendesk ??
# dig txt groups.io
; <<>> DiG 9.16.12 <<>> txt groups.io
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29021
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;groups.io. IN TXT
;; ANSWER SECTION:
groups.io. 397 IN TXT
"google-site-verification=cIdgZ-hBu3RiSGae0xG2qUDmQY5hS3dsg6qUGxAZjaE"
groups.io. 397 IN TXT "v=spf1
ip4:66.175.222.12 ip4:66.175.222.108 ip4:45.79.227.220 ip4:45.79.224.9
ip4:45.79.224.7 ip4:192.53.124.123 ip4:173.255.243.56 ip4:192.53.124.254
include:mail.zendesk.com include:smtp.zendesk.com ~all"
;; Query time: 18 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Fri Jan 05 02:08:59 EST 2024
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 337
Have A Happy Friday !!!
Thanks - Paul Kudla (Manager SCOM.CA Internet Services Inc.)
Scom.ca Internet Services <http://www.scom.ca>
004-1009 Byron Street South
Whitby, Ontario - Canada
L1N 4S3
Toronto 416.642.7266
Main 1.866.411.7266
Fax 1.888.892.7266
Email p...@scom.ca
On 1/4/2024 10:04 AM, Jaco Kroon wrote:
Hi,
Just looking into this in more detail:
Return-path:<bounce+123194+7+8112995+12921...@groups.io>
So yea, that's VERP based.
From: "Joshua Colp via groups.io"<jcolp=sangoma....@groups.io>
And that's a very basic form of SRS ...
And these headers are present too:
List-Subscribe:<mailto:asterisk-dev+subscr...@groups.io>
List-Help:<mailto:asterisk-dev+h...@groups.io>
Sender:asterisk-...@groups.io
List-Id: <asterisk-dev.groups.io>
So yea ... for filtering properly you need to handle groups.io specially. It's
a pain but perfectly do-able.
Kind regards,
Jaco
On 2024/01/04 14:34, Joshua C. Colp wrote:
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 8:28 AM Paul Kudla <p...@scom.ca> wrote:
ok
i will post examples if/when this happens then for better
clarificastion
unless groups.io <http://groups.io> is uniqe to asterisk ?
being an isp mailing lists / open systems are the first to get
hacked !
The groups.io <http://groups.io> platform is not unique to Asterisk,
there are numerous groups hosted on it. Directly adding members to
groups requires a paying plan, otherwise adding an email address
requires someone signing up themselves.
--
Joshua C. Colp
Director of Engineering | Asterisk Project Lead
Sangoma Technologies
Check us out at www.sangoma.com <http://www.sangoma.com> and
www.asterisk.org <http://www.asterisk.org>
--
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is
believed to be clean.
--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
asterisk-dev mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-dev
