Don't get me wrong, I think its great too that he has spent the time on it, and has something working.
I am just trying to be helpful sharing my experience with the platform. We had what we thought was something working too, but when we started testing on all the actual supported windows o/s variations, and got to the nitty gritty of fixing tricky bugs, the whole thing fell apart on us, and I would like to save others the same frustration. Wasting one's own time is one thing, but paying people to do something you toss in the garbage is a lesson that stays with you even longer.
VB may be fine as a stepping stone to other languages, it may also be fine for prototyping and getting look and algorithms right, but in my experience, trying to take the initial "working version" and refine it into something that is "commercial grade" is an exercise in futility.
If it was my time I was investing, I would want to ensure I spent it the best way possible, and be able to spend time making my code work the way I wanted, not fighting with other issues that come up which I can't control. I'm only offering the advice I wish I had in my hands a few years back.
At 02:04 PM 11/3/2003, you wrote:
> I was willing to give vb a chance at one time, but won't touch it any > more.
I am not defending VB. I won't touch it either (I use XWT for all my cross-platform user interface type stuff, any web monkey can be proficient in it in a very short time) -- I am defending Dan's work in actually producing an app, no matter how simple, that can be used as a starting point. The man put some effort into something and actually _has_ product and you get snide remarks about what he did it in... Wankers.
> you have to end up asking yourself, is it still vb after I replace all > the parts with c to get it to do what I want ? if the answer is more than > 50%, why start with vb in the first place ?
Agreed. But Dan created what I would consider a "proof of concept" application -- why'd he get blasted on that? I don't see anyone else stepping up and showing anything THEY'VE put forth.
Like I said, I won't touch VB either, but Dan's actually gone and done something instead of pissing and moaning about the language that was used.
If you're interested: www.xwt.org -- It's not my baby but I love the technology.
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