Patrick wrote: > Al Baker wrote: >> Quote >> >> "Yet amazingly (if this is, indeed, a source of amazement for you), CCM >> and other Cisco software can be just as buggy as anything OSS, if not >> worse. " >> >> This is simply NOT TRUE and shows a complete lack of understanding of modern >> software development. >> CISCO software is developed in a CMM environment. >> It has a formal test methodology and uses Automated Testing on EACH new >> release to ensure that 100% of the software that functioned in the Last >> Release, actually works in this release. >> Further, there is mandatory "soak-testing" for all new software. >> Sorry, anyone who wants to compare Professional TELCO GRADE software >> development with Open Source is just Completely and Totally freakin clueless. > > I don't know where you got this idea but I've worked in the telco grade > equipment business for years and I can assure you that I've seen bug > riddled, jaw dropping releases that were borderline pathetic. Besides > Benoit's examples of the CSR-1 and IOS releases, ask anyone that had the > pleasure of using Cisco's early CCM releases (iirc those still ran on > Windows). Maybe this comes as a shock but many vendors actually use > their customers as a testing platform. They sell them stuff that has > some, more or many bugs and fix stuff moving forward. They might even > charge their customers for the latest releases with the bug fixes. Check > out the changelogs of Cisco SIP firmware releases which you can only get > legally when you pay for a SmartNet contract. > > A reason one might *think* that vendors have this elaborate development > and testing methodology in place and that their stuff rocks in the > stability and no-bugs-found-here department is to give oneself some > piece of mind over the crapload of money forked over for the product and > another crapload of money for the support contract/SLA. > > Not sure what the term is in English but I think it is positive > cognitive dissonance. > > /me steps down from soapbox now :) > > Regards, > Patrick
Patrick, Well presented ... thank you...:) I will add one sentence: "A software without a bug, is DEAD software". Regards, Senad _______________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users