Implying that the Asterisk developers (which is itself a fairly nebulous 
statement since those who contribute to Asterisk are many and come from 
different companies/countries/etc.) are "not in it to make a good product" but 
to make a "profit" is not only highly insulting but a complete 
mischaracterization of what you were told on IRC.

What you were told was that there are essentially three choices (and this goes 
for pretty much any open source software, as already stated).

You may either fix it yourself (if you have the skills), pay someone to fix it 
for you (if you can or must trade money for expediency), or wait for someone 
else with the skills and/or money necessary to fix it.

Regards,
- Brad

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of vip killa
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:05 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] REFER and dialplan broken (as documented 
inchan_sip.c on line 11951)

Yes, they want money, they've told me that several times...it's unfortunate 
that asterisk's dev community is not in it to make a good product but a profit
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Danny Nicholas 
<da...@debsinc.com<mailto:da...@debsinc.com>> wrote:
My bad - "natively" means using the Queue command from the dialplan.  Since the 
"powers that be" are aware of this problem,  I suppose it will get fixed when 
somebody either has some spare time or a sufficient bounty is offered.

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 On Behalf Of vip killa
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:57 AM

To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] REFER and dialplan broken (as documented 
inchan_sip.c on line 11951)

I'm sorry i don't know what you mean by natively. I'm almost certain the queue 
is handled via AGI and not using asterisk's queue.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Danny Nicholas 
<da...@debsinc.com<mailto:da...@debsinc.com>> wrote:
Do you use the Queue command "natively" or from the AGI?  In the example you 
gave, if you did a "core show channels", I assume that Agent007 would be idle, 
but ineligible for Queue activity.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:37 AM

To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] REFER and dialplan broken (as documented 
inchan_sip.c on line 11951)

Sure, it really manifests itself whenever using AGI for call flow, but this is 
how it affects us...
incoming call -> queue -> agent007 -> xfer -> pussygalore
now the AGI/dialplan thinks agent007 is on phone with pussygalore until that 
xfered call terminates so if another call comes into queue while pussygalore is 
on the phone w/ that xfered call, agent007 will not even be attempted by queue

I'm sure there could be other scenarios in which this REFER issue could pose a 
problem but this is the most consequential scenario which we have to deal with 
everyday.


On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Danny Nicholas 
<da...@debsinc.com<mailto:da...@debsinc.com>> wrote:
I use Polycom 501's and use the Transfer Key to send inbound calls to other 
extensions.  Can you give me an A-B-C example of how this problem manifests 
itself?

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 On Behalf Of vip killa
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:11 AM

To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] REFER and dialplan broken (as documented 
inchan_sip.c on line 11951)

Interesting but the issue I'm having relates to Inbound and Outbound REFERs 
since I'm using Polycom's Transfer softkey (which allows for both Inbound and 
Outbound Transfers). I know this is not an issue when using Asterisk's built-in 
transfer (only allows Inbound transfers).

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Danny Nicholas 
<da...@debsinc.com<mailto:da...@debsinc.com>> wrote:
Have you read this thread?
http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?t=74418


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 On Behalf Of vip killa
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:36 AM

To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] REFER and dialplan broken (as documented 
inchan_sip.c on line 11951)

I did not see this issue anywhere on 
issues.asterisk.org<http://issues.asterisk.org>
Can you give me a reference number to the issue? Also, it is a problem with all 
releases of asterisk.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Danny Nicholas 
<da...@debsinc.com<mailto:da...@debsinc.com>> wrote:
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 On Behalf Of vip killa
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:11 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] REFER and dialplan broken (as documented inchan_sip.c 
on line 11951)

There is a problem when transferring calls using REFER, asterisk does not 
notify dialplan. I've been told to use AMI as a workaround to notify my 
dialplan/routing program but that would require a huge change to our software. 
I was wondering if there is any intention of fixing this problem.
Here is issue as stated in chan_sip.c
"this is currently broken as we have no way of telling the dialplan engine 
whether a transfer succeeds or fails."
Thanks.

I'm quite certain that this problem is being considered (for reference, this is 
a 1.8.X issue).  If you aren't satisfied with the progress being made, you 
should research your own solution and/or offer a bounty.

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