Reza:
I think when most people refer to de-regulation in the industry they are
referring to the CRTC telling the incumbents what they can and cannot sell
you and at what price.
The only reason most ITSPs are in business (apart from intelligence and
business savvy) is because the CRTC decided (with a few small exceptions ie
911, etc) not to regulate VoIP (unless it was being sold by an ILEC)
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <asterisk@uc.org>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Scary Call from Bell Muscle Men...
John:
" Just a small bit of clarification; the industry has not been
deregulated. Far from it. "
Can you please clarify? Are you 100% sure the industry has not be
de-regulated? There was a time when one could not be an ITSP or small
companies could not provide phone services with their own equipment. No
one
could provide phone services other than the ILEC or the CLEC.
Speaking with the guys at Industry Canada / CRTC -- anyone can apply for
licenses these days and when you pay the right fee with the correct paper
work submission, obtaining a license is relatively straight forward.
Becoming a CLEC is a different story. If the industry was not
de-regulated... then as per your claim, we are doing illegal business.
Are you talking about "De-regulation" as in regulating "prices". If
that's
the case I completely agree with you. When I am using the term
"De-regulation", I mean anyone can be a telephone company or an ITSP these
days regardless of them being an ILEC and CLEC.
Please provide your thoughts and feedback on this when you have a chance.
Best,
Reza.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <asterisk@uc.org>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Scary Call from Bell Muscle Men...
On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 21:56 -0500, Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast wrote:
Thanks to the de-regulation of the industry... its provided the smaller
guys for greater opportunities... and if the big guns like Bell,
Allstream
and others are not quick to change -- they will loose millions in
revenue.
They already are.
Just a small bit of clarification; the industry has not been
deregulated. Far from it. In almost every area of Canada the rates the
ILEC charges is set artificially high to encourage competition.
Up until recently the ILECs were not allowed to compete on price for any
wireline service. However, with the introduction and subsequent success
of cable VoIP (Rogers, Shaw, etc), most residential service in Canada
where cable VoIP exists is now free from economic (price) regulation.
Note that this applies to residential, not business service.
In the above described scenario; Bell is the ILEC, Allstream is the
CLEC. Bell is price regulated; Allstream is not.
Regards,
--
John Lange
President
Canadian Association of Voice Over IP Service Providers.
1-866-940-CAVP (2287)
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