We have done it in selected areas. It's not cheap to deploy and/or operate. It is about $125k per Bell CO by the time you deploy an initial DSLAM with limited configuration (ie not fully loaded). We have 4 of them done
Oshawa Toronto - Adelaide Toronto - Simcoe Toronto - Asquith We will be doing 3 or 4 more next year. One of the bigger costs that people don't realize is the backhaul from the CO back to our network at 151 Front (or wherever). Backhaul is expensive. The other problem is that because of the ever expanding use of remotes, the number of customers that can be served from remotes is going down. In a suburban central office like Oshawa we can get to about 25% of the population from the CO. In an a dense urban CO like the 3 downtown Toronto COs we are in we can get to about 65%. The other advantage is that when we can reach the customer from the CO we can use ADSL2+ including Annex M or if customers really need it we can do SDSL at up to 5.7 Mbps per pair. Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephan Monette [mailto:monet...@unlimitel.ca] > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:09 AM > To: Henry Coleman > Cc: TAUG Technical > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Asterisk & 1 Gigabit Internet. > > Has anyone in the group installed their own DSLAMs to provide DSL > services and could comment on pricing to do so? > > I suspect the cost of internet bandwidth is pretty low. The cost is > probably on deploying last mile access that is expansive. And then > there's maintenance of copper loops,.... > > My point is I don't think the cost of bandwidth is high, but the cost > to deliver it is very high in Canada considering all the distance we > need to cover to connect everyone. Our cities are not as dense as Asian > cities or European cities. > > Don't take my words on it, but I would like to see someone who has the > experience in this field to comment on the cost to deploy high speed > access. > > Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! > > Stephan Monette > Unlimitel Inc. > > Tel.: 1-877-464-6638 > Fax: (613) 482-1077 > > > > On 2010-12-22, at 9:56 AM, Henry Coleman wrote: > > > Okay, well perhaps I was a little too hard on the CRTC but the > limited > > amount of competition in this industry is the main reason we don't > have low > > cost bandwidth and services that give the consumer what the want. > > Henry > > > > n Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Bruce N <het...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> I think Cogeco is the only provider who comes close to what you > might want > >> but they operate more to the west of Toronto (I mean cities west of > >> Toronto). > >> 50Mbps download - Upload unknown - I haven't tested it though but > $99 > >> sounds fine. > >> > http://www.cogeco.ca/cable/on/en/residential/internet/hsi/explore_hsi.h > tml > >> > >> > >> -Bruce > >> > >> > >>> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:51:10 -0600 > >>> From: j...@johnlange.ca > >>> To: asterisk@uc.org > >>> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Asterisk & 1 Gigabit Internet. > >>> > >>> The root problem is lack of competition. We have no competition > >>> because under our foreign ownership regime, Canada does not allow > any. > >>> > >>>> Unfortunately the CRTC are not helping matters, their board > consists of > >> ex Bell and Cable people who are very conservative; to the point of > choking > >> off any competition before is viable. > >>> > >>> I'm not a big fan of the CRTC for a lot of reasons but on this > >>> particular issue I always feel I have to defend them. The fact is, > the > >>> CRTC was taking steps to increase competition and one of the first > >>> things the Conservatives did when they came to power in 2007 was > order > >>> them to stop. > >>> > >>> Here is a nice little article in an archive that explains just how > >>> ticked off the bureaucrats at the CRTC were at the Conservatives > >>> (conform or quit): > >>> > >>> > >> http://www.pugetsoundradio.com/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?v-print/m- > 1170784107/ > >>> > >>> And an original story from the CBC that explains what the > government > >>> did and how happy the incumbents were: > >>> > >>> http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2006/06/13/crtc.html > >>> > >>> The Conservatives have also not lifted the foreign ownership > >>> restrictions in Telecom despite several bi-partisan reports that > >>> recommended they do so. As recently as this November, Tony Clement > >>> announced they would not be allowing competition (foreign owned > >>> companies) in Canadian Telecom any time soon. > >>> > >>> So on this one, it's squarely in the hands of the politicians, not > the > >> CRTC. > >>> > >>> Not to promote my own blog on this list but I've written > extensively > >>> on competition, deregulation and the CRTC including a whole post on > >>> the favorite Canadian sport of bashing the CRTC for everything: > >>> > >>> > >> http://www.johnlange.ca/2008/07/16/apparently-the-crtc-is-to-blame- > for-everything/ > >>> > >>> -- > >>> John Lange > >>> www.johnlange.ca > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > *Henry L. 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