Mike, perhaps the Gliding Federation of Australia Inc. maintainers of the
registration and ownership of gliders records could be of assistance to your
memory.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Timbrell
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fokas - South Carney
I am afraid that aircraft is not our Foka 4 GUW. I only have photos of the
wreck now and the colour layout is different, same comp. number or not. Also
the ID Plate shows our being built in 1967... bit of a mystery really. I wish
it was ours because it's a great photo.
Mike
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Kenneth
Caldwell
Sent: Monday, 5 September 2011 3:44 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fokas - South Carney
Attached is a photo of the Foka, competition number 70, taken at the Seventh
Australian National Gliding Championships held at Narromine (27th December 1966
- 9th January 1967). The Waikerie Boomerang is in the background. The Foka
pilots were Jan Coolhaas and John Blackwell. Graham's photo is probably of
Trevor Kyle's Foka 3 which he flew with Jan Coolhaas in the Sixth Nationals at
Waikerie.
Ken
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Mike Timbrell <mike.timbr...@techpack.net.au>
wrote:
No Graham, our Foka 4A had the reverse colouring. Mostly white with a burnt
orange flash down the fuse. GUW. It was a beautiful thing to fly.
I have now located the original identification plate. Build year 1967. Too
bad, it would have been a good story.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Graham
Watts
Sent: Monday, 5 September 2011 11:30 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fokas - South Carney
Is this the one? I took this photo in 1965 or 1966 at Camden. George Detto
in the cockpit if I remember.
Graham
On 4/09/2011 10:27 PM, Paul Mander wrote:
> Small world, Jarek.
> Having finally got to look at the footage, I see Foka IV, competition
> number 70. That was in 1965.
> In 1969 Mike Timbrell, a couple of other Sydney Tech Gliding Club
> members and I bought a Foka IV from the Bathurst Soaring Group, a
> syndicate of eight that included Merv Waghorn. They had owned the
> glider for a few years, so it must have been imported soon after 1965.
> It had competition number 70 on the fin, in exactly the same style as in
the film.
> I think there is a strong chance that this is the same glider. I did
> my Silver and Gold flights in it, and thereby established some great
> friendships with members of the old Concordia Gliding Club during
> their camps at Forbes.
> We had that very rigging tool, never had a problem but one had to be
> careful with alignment.
> Sadly, the glider was written off in a take off accident; the Foka IV
> had huge spoilers, far too much drag for a mere Auster to overcome.
> It was an interesting glider, all wood, having no spar. It depended on
> its thick plywood skins for the wings' strength. We encountered glue
> problems which thereafter always lurked, in my mind at least. Might
> have been a good thing that it went. Apart from that, I've always
> thought it to be the best wooden glider ever made.
> Another connection; I was taken for my first glider flight in 1968 by
> Peter Hanneman, ex RAF Red Arrows and recent New Australian. What
> chance that he was flying one of the (?) Hawker Hunters in the Opening
> Day aerobatic display? Peter may even have had a hand in the glider's
> purchase and he lives in Bathurst. Mike Timbrell is in a position to
> check, and I'm sure he'll let us know.
> Thanks for the memories.
> Paul Mander
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
> [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Jarek
> Mosiejewski
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 May 2011 6:44 AM
> To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Fokas - South Carney
>
> Something about Fokas but on much happier note.
> Recently discovered in the archives, Polish propaganda movie about the
> 1965 World Comps in South Cerney from the Polish team perspective:
> http://www.flyingtv.pl/film,lotnictwo62,filmy-0,ile-10,samolot-415.htm
> l If you can bear the comments in Polish, a very slow server and
> lengthy socialist propaganda scenes, there are some interesting
> moments showing the world comps in the 60b , including a Foka being
> rigged with the proper T-wrench.
>
> Regards
> Jarek
>
>
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