And by doing so, they're only pissing off their best viewers - the early 
adopters.  Shooting themselves in the foot when hobbyists only want to *help*


----- Original message -----
> They've been going out of their way trying to stop unapproved apps
> grabbing content. They put a lot of effort into making sure content is
> unavailable to open source systems when simply leaving it as is would
> mean anyone could write on top of iPlayer.
> 
> e.g. read the second PDF
> http://pjakma.wordpress.com/2010/05/17/bbc-response-to-my-iplayer-drm-foi-request/
> 
> Open Source gets a mention under meetings with Technology, Piracy and
> Enforcement ticked in the header of the minutes.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Anthony McKale
> <anthony.mck...@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> > Replace BBC with iPlayer and I'd agree with some of those points, it's
> > more a indifference and lack of care rather than being directly
> > hostile though.
> > 
> > And I'd say that will changes rather soon, due to various management
> > changes.
> > 
> > Ps since no one's publicly said I can't....
> > 
> > Here's some really good ref data feeds (ps like all these feeds
> > PROXY-CACHE don't hit feeds directly or you'll kill them)
> > 
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ion/refdata/type/service/
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ion/refdata/type/category/
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ion/refdata/type/masterbrand/service_type/tv/id
> > s/service1/ids/sevice2/
> > 
> > eg
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ion/refdata/type/service/discoverable_only/1/fo
> > rmat/json
> > 
> > Very useful reference feed for ion, ps you guys aren't missing much
> > from not having access to the wiki, it's mainly incomplete, inaccurate
> > or out-of-date.
> > 
> > Zap
> > 
> > 
> > On 30/09/2010 13:15, "Iain Wallace" <ikwall...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Unlikely. The BBC have gone out of their way to be hostile to open
> > > source attempts at using iPlayer content, however you will find
> > > working examples and programs for playing iPlayer stuff on pretty
> > > much anything on that same wiki.
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Alex Cockell
> > > <a...@acockell.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > I'm not personally looking for metadata, but it would be great if
> > > > some of the open-source players were permitted back into the fold,
> > > > meaning that VLC and the like could play BBC content... Especially
> > > > for cpu architectures that Adobe don't support.
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, and be able to distribute said player plugins in Linux distro
> > > > repositories.
> > > > 
> > > > And I want to be able to play content on my n900 again.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original message -----
> > > > > Not sure what you're looking for, but all the metadata that
> > > > > iPlayer pages uses to build a programme page is openly accessible
> > > > > http://beebhack.wikia.com/wiki/IPlayer_Metadata
> > > > > 
> > > > > It can't not be otherwise the javascript on those pages wouldn't
> > > > > work.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Anthony McKale
> > > > > <anthony.mck...@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > it uses some of them, but iplayer it's self is created from
> > > > > > them too
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk on behalf of Mo McRoberts
> > > > > > Sent: Wed 9/29/2010 2:52 PM
> > > > > > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [backstage] API into iPlayer content
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 14:23, Anthony McKale
> > > > > > <anthony.mck...@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > yah the feeds aren't https/firewall protected so i'm
> > > > > > > guessing no one should
> > > > > > > mind
> > > > > > > or at least it'll be a lesson to them if they didn't want
> > > > > > > folks accessing them
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If memory serves either the EMP SWF itself or the supporting
> > > > > > JS makes use of them, which would require their visibility. I
> > > > > > could be wrong, though -- I can't for the life of me recall
> > > > > > how I came to believe this to be the case, so I could just be
> > > > > > making things up.
> > > > > > 
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