Dear baroque lutenists
There seems to be quite a lot of also Weiss, and also some rare Weiss
mss., in the huge facsimile collection by Ivan Jellinek in the Scribd:
http://www.scribd.com/collections/4236677/Baroque-Lute-Tablature
And no $1000 there... :-)
Arto
On 27/07/13 22:39, Christopher Wilke wrote:
Sterling,
At a $1000 a pop it is clearly intended for well-funded
libraries and the goal seems to be to get the music into scholars',
rather than performers' hands. That's a laudable goal, but a
transcription sans original will be practically useless for any scholar
conducting serious research. Such an edition would only be good for
getting a very general gist of Weiss's works. The transference from tab
to modern notation by necessity requires many editorial decisions. Even
in the most fully-catalogued critical edition, some of these decisions
are "hidden," especially regarding durations and voice leading. Even
the correction of mistakes might be called into question and clarified
only by looking at a facsimile.
I'm certainly not saying that there shouldn't BE a transcription.
I'm just not sure why an edition of such limited use gets priority
without the facsimile. I suppose they hoping that some important
musicologist reaching for a volume of the works of Clara Schumann will
accidentally knock Weiss's volume off the shelf, have it fall open and
think, "Wow, I am instantly beguiled by this repertoire heretofore
unknown to me! Thankfully, this serendipitous initial encounter
presents the music in a non-intimidating format that is friendly to my
keyboard-playing hands or I would have never deigned to give it the
slightest attention."
Chris
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Christopher Wilke
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
www.christopherwilke.com
----- Original Message -----
From: sterling price <spiffys84...@yahoo.com>
To: Arthur Ness <arthurjn...@verizon.net>; baroque lute list
<baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 11:15 AM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss Volume 9 Facsimile
I had heard several years ago that the transcription was to be
published first. This I found quite strange and frustrating.
Shouldn't
the goal be to get the music in player's hands? Oh well...
Sterling
__________________________________________________________________
From: Arthur Ness <[1]arthurjn...@verizon.net>
To: sterling price <[2]spiffys84...@yahoo.com>; baroque lute list
<[3]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 5:56 AM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss Volume 9 Facsimile
Hang on, Sterling! You're in for a rough ride.
The volume you are asking about is "in preparation." It is
miscellaneous pieces in facsimile, vol. 9 of the Saemtliche Werke
ed. Tim Crawford, et al., which is Bd. 15 in a special series
(Sonderreihe) in Das Erbe deutscher Musik (EdM) publ.
Baerenreiter..
The volume of corresponding transcriptions has already appeared as
vol.
10 (iM 16), 604 pp. costing nearly $US1000 (that's right, one
thousand
dollars). One can expect that the facsimile will be similarly
priced. Charlotte had no choice but to purchase it for her
library.
It was a big hunk from her book budget.
[1][1][4]https://www.baerenreiter.com/en/program/complete-editions-and-
edi
tio
ns-of-selected-works/das-erbe-deutscher-musik/special-series/
The contents of vol. 10 are listed here, as well as an index to
the
complete edition:
[2][5]http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_I/Musikwissensc
haf
t/EDM/EdM-Inhaltsverzeichnisse/EdM_Sonderreihe_016.pdf
An important web page is Markus Lutz (and colleagues):
[3][6]http://www.slweiss.de/index.php
AJN.
----- Original Message -----
From: "sterling price" <[4][2][7]spiffys84...@yahoo.com>
To: "baroque lute list" <[5][3][8]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:19 AM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Weiss Volume 9 Facsimile
> Hi all--
> I'm looking for info about the Weiss complete works volume 9
facsimile.
> This is the one with works from miscellaneous manuscripts, and
the
one
> I have been waiting almost 20 years to get. OMI has it listed,
but
with
> no price. Before I call OMI, has anyone seen this yet?
> Thanks,
> Sterling
>
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References
1.
[4][10]https://www.baerenreiter.com/en/program/complete-editions-and-ed
itio
ns-of-selected-works/das-erbe-deutscher-musik/special-series/
2.
[11]http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_I/Musikwissenscha
ft/E
DM/EdM-Inhaltsverzeichnisse/EdM_Sonderreihe_016.pdf
3. [5][12]http://www.slweiss.de/index.php
4. mailto:[6][13]spiffys84...@yahoo.com
5. mailto:[7][14]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
6. [8][15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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[16]https://www.baerenreiter.com/en/program/complete-editions-and-editi
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2. mailto:[17]spiffys84...@yahoo.com
3. mailto:[18]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
4.
[19]https://www.baerenreiter.com/en/program/complete-editions-and-editi
ons-of-selected-works/das-erbe-deutscher-musik/special-series/
5. [20]http://www.slweiss.de/index.php
6. mailto:[21]spiffys84...@yahoo.com
7. mailto:[22]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
8. [23]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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2. mailto:spiffys84...@yahoo.com
3. mailto:baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
4. https://www.baerenreiter.com/en/program/complete-editions-and-edi
5. http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_I/Musikwissenschaf
6. http://www.slweiss.de/index.php
7. mailto:spiffys84...@yahoo.com
8. mailto:baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
10. https://www.baerenreiter.com/en/program/complete-editions-and-editio
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https://www.baerenreiter.com/en/program/complete-editions-and-editions-of-selected-works/das-erbe-deutscher-musik/special-series/
20. http://www.slweiss.de/index.php
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23. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
