Lloyd - You explained the situation in so much greater detail, and based on what you've explained, I'm in agreement that the chroma comparison may not be that helpful.
The comment that chromas are an intellectual curiosity was apparently in reference to this specific comparison. Well, BD is a premier humus management system so I thought I'd add a few words on chromas, as chromas are a central tool in humus management evalutation. In the spirit of chromas, we can do more in BD education to explain them and use them. Barrel compost, or CPP, is something that BD has to offer organic farmers and sustainable agriculture on a much wider scale, by the way. There are different ways to tweak the recipe and make special cultures. In India, CPP is getting wider and wider attention among farmers far and wide. Have you seen the Wiki over at Larry London's web page. It occurs to me that BD education could be matched to a BiodynamicsWiki; i.e., it would allow the uploading of images, scanned soil test reports, articles, and such, in a web-based open source collection. See: PermacultureWiki http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pcwiki/index.php See: CompostWiki || Sub-category at PermacultureWiki http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pcwiki/index.php/Composting Here's a compost tea brewer jpg I uploaded one day, as a Wiki test. http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pcwiki/pcwikiufu/compost-tea-ca1.jpg Well, sometimes I see a topic and add on resources to expand the story. So let's see where this story goes next, when somebody else adds a chapter. Peace, Steve Diver Lloyd Charles wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Diver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 2:36 AM > Subject: Re: Electronic homeopathy for plants. Was Re: late winter farm > > > Chromas as intellectual curiosity? > > > > Chromas are a practical approach to the humus > > farmers in Austria and Switzerland, who work their soils > > with humified compost, cover crops, spading machines, > > rotations, and related humus management practices > > to achieve biological health, clay-humus crumb, > > and associated mineral availability. > > Hi Steve > I dont think you'd get much argument about the value of chromas as you have > described above > Lets come back around the circle and look at this again > 1 I made some barrel compost using radionically made preps instead of the > physical ones - heck I had enough cow manure for two pits and only one set > of preps - and I was curious as to what would happen. > 2. The stuffs done and visually there is no difference and there was none as > it went through the process > 3 We tested these two lots energetically with a radionic machine and by > dowsing and for practical purposes there was not much difference (the > radionic one a little ahead but not that different) > 4 Allan suggested a chroma test of produce grown ( vegetables grain or > whatever) using radionic and conventional preps as a comparison. I dont have > a problem with chromas for this. > 5 I questioned how you would do this because any conventional preps used > will spread their influence betyond the application area and probably effect > the plots using radionic preps (Glen Atkinson tells us that potentised preps > will 'stay put' only effecting where they are applied) > If we are going to do comparison tests and then draw some qualitative > conclusion from them they must be valid comparisons. > My thinking from here on in is that a farm to farm comparison is a real good > way of comparing the two farms but a completely invalid way of comparing any > one treatment used on the both farms because of the other variables we have > introduced - and none of us have the time, money, or energy to spare to do > enough of these tests to make it valid. If we cant draw some useful > conclusions from the simpler tests we are able to do then maybe its better > if we dont draw any conclusions at all. Which brings me back around to the > start of your message. If these Swiss and Austrian farmers are using chromas > effectively to look at the humus quality of their soil then that should be > an ideal way of comparing two batches of barrel compost ? - (I favour > energetic testing myself but that has already tested out very similar). I > spoke to Cheryl Kemp about this yesterday and will send some samples, I'm > sure she would be happy to post the chroma pictures to the Biodynamic > Agriculture Australia web site for all to see when the tests are done. > Cheers > Lloyd Charles
