Eric

i did get a Gethopper account. But lacking Flash their interface it
does not show the widget for getting a URL for a pasted snippet.

It is possible through their Bookmarklet interface for iOS devices,
and other non-Flash users, to get full use of the service. i think
Bookmarklets are only in JS. Something for me to try. Or perhaps
someone else has?

greg
~krsnadas.org

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from:    Eric Iverson eric.b.iver...@gmail.com
to:      Beta forum <beta@jsoftware.com>
date:    20 June 2012 07:10
subject:         Re: [Jbeta] transfer with hopper bookmark

So hopper isn't that interesting for the iPAD (one way only). Good to
know. I'm surprised as they certainly talk about iOS. Did you try
www.gethopper.com in safari with a hopper account? Judging solely on
my 1 message might not do it service.

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from:    greg heil ghei...@gmail.com
to:      Beta forum <beta@jsoftware.com>
date:    20 June 2012 06:58
subject:         Re: [Jbeta] transfer with hopper bookmark

Eric

my complaint about Gethopper is that for Flash disabled devices (such
as iOS ones) it is a WRITE ONLY service. One CANNOT even get the URL a
PASTE is written to w/o the Flash interface.

Going a datum one way (From a Flash device) to a non flash device is
fine. The other way runs into the lack of interface difficulty.

Eg knowing what the link is that is created on an iOS device is
impossible w/o allowing Flash. So it cannot be read even on a Flash
enabled desktop, because no URL can be created.

Presumably the URL shown in your email was created on a non-iOS device.

What i am hoping for is that URL may be reconstructable even w/o the
Flash interface...

greg
~krsnadas.org

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from:    Eric Iverson eric.b.iver...@gmail.com
to:      Beta forum <beta@jsoftware.com>
date:    20 June 2012 06:33
subject:         Re: [Jbeta] transfer with hopper bookmark

I am not following your comments. My use of hopper has been simple and
it works for me. I'm not sure it is a useful thing at all and present
it more as a curiousity. If you find it  useful, great. If not, don't
use it.

In my example, hopper offers nothing over just including the file as
an attachment in the email. I'm not sure if there are use cases where
hopper provides interesting value.

>From my iPad, reading that email, and clicking the link worked fine,
and there was nothing about flash.

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from:    greg heil ghei...@gmail.com
to:      Beta forum <beta@jsoftware.com>
date:    19 June 2012 15:28
subject:         Re: [Jbeta] transfer with hopper bookmark

Eric

my interaction with the site says it is a Flash one. For me, w/o
Flash, it is write only. More famously Apple mobile eschews Flash. Has
any one succeeded with an Apple mobile?

i was able to reverse engineer a page but have not been able to do
anything with the "PublicURL" ... Its hash is about 6 characters
longer than the (successful) one you got.

So my question is how can i get to a workable hash from the reverse
engineered one? Or maybe their Flash software goes through a submital
process with .tl? In which case i would be locked out until they did
an SVG implementation.

greg
~krsnadas.org

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from:    Eric Iverson eric.b.iver...@gmail.com
to:      Beta forum <beta@jsoftware.com>
date:    19 June 2012 14:37
subject:         [Jbeta] transfer with hopper bookmark

I took the following steps:
used jt to package up ~addons/math misc folder
dragged jattach.html and dropped it on my hopper web page
got the hopper URL to the file in clipboard
pasted the link here

http://hop.tl/H70cbqe2g9nKV7_UQs

In theory, you you can read this message on your iPad, tap the link,
and continue the process to get ~addons/math misc folder installed.
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