well, 7 days after the 150 day period was up. 150 days was April 30,
Beatrice dropped a beautiful pair on May 7th.  I'd like to hope they
are Harpo's lambs.

http://mwsmith.smugmug.com/Animals/BeatriceLambs2014/39501829_35R8Gh#!i=3233820778&k=QtgWbtf

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Michael Smith <mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Mark a thoughtful response. I'll keep track of things. It's my own 
> stupidity that brought this doubt on the scene to begin with. We'll see if I 
> get a break somehow.
>
> -Michael Smith,
> Perino Ranch Blackbellies
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On May 2, 2014, at 7:11 PM, "Mark Wintermute" <winterm...@earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> I have seen lambs delivered nearly a week early to over a week late from
>> actual date of service.  Basically the lambs are born when mother nature
>> says they are ready (in a perfect world).  We are lambing right now and it
>> started with several ewes apparently conceiving the same day they were put
>> with the rams.  There is a silent estrus brought on by sudden exposure to
>> rams (google ram effect) and the ewe can conceive within the first 48 hours.
>> Then around 5 days later they will have full estrus which the rams are more
>> reliable with (one week from first exposure to the ewes).  Then you start
>> the normal 17 day estrus cycle of the ewes.
>>
>> So if the wrong rams were not with the ewes but for a brief time and they go
>> over a week on the possible gestation date you are probably getting lambs
>> off your desired sire.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> As per my comedy of errors story below:
>>
>> April 30th was 150 days, and one of the ewes, Beatrice was starting to bag
>> up around day 145 or 148 or so.  Still no lambs.  The other, Jules is
>> probably pregnant, but no where near as huge as Beatrice. Jules may not lamb
>> for another couple of weeks. Beatrice appears to be ready to drop at any
>> time. At least twins, I suspect.
>>
>> is 150 days pretty accurate for ABs?  The two rogue rams got to the ewes 150
>> days before April 30th. I am hoping the girls might not have been in full
>> estrus and that when the two rogue rams got to them, nothing happened. Since
>> April 30 has came and gone, the more days we get into May, the less chance
>> the sire is one of the rogue rams.
>>
>> On the same day back in December, the ewes were then with the ram I DID want
>> as sire for the next 30 days or so, I am hoping he is the sire, and maybe
>> got Beatrice pregnant a few days later.
>>
>> -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.
>>
>>
>>
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