so the heat of the steam made it livable?

Hope systems improve so folks don't have to live through that again.





On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, Cy Selfridge wrote:

> Hi Spiro,
>
> I kept them going on the stove top and they acted like hot water heaters.
> They did not heat the entire 90 foot long mobile home but the main living
> area was liveable (nearly). The temps would dip to the teens and one night
> it fell below 10F. That was truly an awful time which I really do not care
> to repeat. We kept the water running in all of the faucets so the lines
> would not freeze and we were very lucky on that count. We had a good 2
> inches of ice everywhere outside. For the first several days no one in Tulsa
> had gasoline for sale because they did not have electricity to run the gas
> pumps. After 3 or 4 days more and more stations had their generators running
> but most of the grocery stores were dead in the water.
>
> Wal-Mart did manage to get it together and did business on a limited basis.
> A lot of Tulsa had electricity within a week but our poor mobile home park
> was among the last to get power. The blamed recreation park across the
> street from our park had electricity after 9 or so days but, alas, not us.
> Once we could get out and get supplies life did get easier but we were sure
> overjoyed to see the lights come back on.
>
> From what I remember there was probably not more than 1,000 feet of power
> lines left undamaged in the entire Tulsa metro area.
>
> I am glad I live where I do.
>
> Interestingly there was a substation explosion in the north central part of
> Tulsa a couple of months ago and a whole hunk of Tulsa was without power and
> it took a good 3 or so weeks to get everything back to normal. Folks did
> have "limited" power but were told not to run their air-conditioners. Nice
> thing to have happen in the middle of the summer. (LOLLOLLOL)
>
> Cy, The anasazi
>
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Spiro
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:41 PM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted
>
>
>
>
>
> okay, sometimes I'm stupid;
> but how did the 5 gallon pots keep you from freezing?
>
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, Cy Selfridge wrote:
>
>> Alan,
>>
>> I use those candle lighters and they are quite handy. Yup, you
> occasionally
>> have to go on a search for them if the War Department has used them.
>> (LOLLOL)
>>
>> The Sears stove I had demanded that the stove have electricity in order to
>> use the oven but the stove top sure saved our lives. I used a couple of my
>> very large (5 gallon) pots to hold water and kept it going in order not to
>> freeze to death. I would have used cooking oil but no stores were open to
>> seel it. (LOL)
>>
>> Gads, that was a miserable experience. When I managed to get the home up
> to
>> a balmy 59 degrees we all celebrated.
>>
>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>
>>
>>
>> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
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>> On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:31 AM
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I read on the AFB accessibility page pretty much the same information
>> concerning the default 350 degree temperature and even 450 is only 10
> button
>>
>> pushes away.
>>
>> The stove we saw with the center burner is gas and they make a to do over
>> cooking on the center large pot burner. And, one of the stoves has the
> hole
>> top of the stove 1 big grate but you could still feel the burner mouths
>> under the grate so you know where to place the pot.
>>
>> I'm not worried about the igniter not working. I'm a long time camper and
>> my stove in the motor home hasn't even got electronic ignition. The way to
>> deal with that is to buy a grill lighter or candle lighter. Basically,
>> their both the same except the grill lighter is a little longer and more
> out
>>
>> doorsy looking. The candle lighter looks nicer and is smaller to fit
>> women's hands better as the packing on one said. Basically, what they both
>> are is a disposable butane lighter with a long nose. These things remind
> me
>> of a rifle in that they have a trigger. They are safe as well. You put
>> your index finger on a dial that is spring loaded. You must roll it
> forward
>> and hold it there wile you squeeze the trigger. Their easy for the blind
> to
>> use because you can feel where the tip of the lighter will produce flame
>> before you shoot. You turn the gas on, wait a second and fire. The lighter
>> ignites the butaine and your burner ignites. If you haven't got the TV
>> going full blast or the stereo, you can hear the gas light. They only cost
>> a couple of bucks and will last a long time.
>>
>> I've got a portable Coleman 2 burner propane stove that I keep in the
>> storage bin outside in the motor home. It uses the 1 pound propane
>> cylinders. I keep a candle lighter in the bottom of it too. When I set up
>> the stove on a picnic table, and there it is all ready to go. Very handy
>> and you may have to go hunting for it if you've got a candle nut for a
> wife!
>>
>> She'll love it. Mine sure does.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
>> the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
>>
>> The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
>> available upon request.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfri...@comcast.net
> <mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net>
>> <mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> >
>> To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
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> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:43 AM
>> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted
>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>
>>> I have purchased at least one of those gas stoves with the buttons for
> the
>>> oven controls. My wife took the stick on bubbles to mark the important
>>> buttons (buttons? Rather the space where you need to press) and it worked
>>> out quite nice.
>>>
>>> Most gas stoves are set so the oven comes on at 350F when you start and
>>> pressing the up or down button raises or lowers the temp by 5F.
>>>
>>> I also like the cast iron grates for the pots. On the electric stoves
> that
>>> fifth burner is only for holding something as it does not get hot enough
>>> to
>>> really cook anything.
>>>
>>> One thought, if your area is subject to frequent power outages the
>>> electronic ignition is not all that great an idea. If there is no
>>> electricity you have no oven - unless - you have an inverter which you
> can
>>> plug your stove into then you could have enough electricity to light the
>>> oven. When we had the great ice storm in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 2007 I sure
>>> wish
>>> I have been able to use the oven because it was blamed cold for the two
>>> weeks we had no power.
>>>
>>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
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>>> On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 7:33 AM
>>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>>
>>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are looking at new refrigerators as well. Hour's is making sounds I
>>> don't like and the unit is 24 years old as is. It came with the house so
>>> it
>>> wasn't the best model in the line to start with. I've gone around and
>>> around in my mind over the ice maker question. On one hand it would be
>>> nice
>>> to always have ice and cold water. On the other hand, a 2 quart bottle of
>>> filtered water for coffee making works just as well. I have found out
> that
>>> cold water makes better tasting coffee. I've finally decided to skip the
>>> ice maker and have more freezer space for food. We don't use all that
> much
>>> ice and so the occasional 8 pound bag from the corner store works for me.
>>>
>>> I went the same rounds several years back over a water filter. Although
>>> the
>>> smell of a swimming pool comes out the city water tap, there is no
>>> evidence
>>> to suggest it's harmful to drink. That leaves a matter of personal
>>> preference. I certainly don't want my coffee smelling like the pool. I
>>> don't care if I shower in it but I don't want to drink it. So. I looked
> at
>>> hole house systems. Now your talking money. The filters for such systems
>>> cost in the hundred dollar range and upward. As I've said, I don't care
> if
>>> I shower or wash my hair with the stuff, I'm just not going to drink it.
>>> We
>>> wound up buying a Pure Ultimate water filter which attaches to a kitchen
>>> faucet. Flip the lever up for filtered water or down for city water. The
>>> filter turns off when it's time to change out the filter cartridge. I buy
>>> those at Costco and there are 6 filters in the box for $50. If you buy
>>> them
>>> 1 at a time, they go for $17 each or about 102 bucks so that's why we do
>>> Costco. Just because you have an ice maker doesn't mean you have to use
>>> it.
>>>
>>> That brings me around to another topic I'd like to ask about. I like the
>>> new gas stoves with the caste-iron grates and a big center burner. A
> great
>>> place for that huge pot everybody seems to have. The problem is the
>>> buttons
>>> and controls. The gas knobs are returning to the front of the stove but
>>> the
>>> oven is a touch plate and appears to be totally useless for the blind.
> I'd
>>> like to hear about your experiences if you've bought a new gas stove in
>>> the
>>> past year or so.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
>>> the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
>>>
>>> The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
>>> available upon request.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lenny McHugh" <lmch...@verizon.net <mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net>
> <mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net>
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>>> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:30 PM
>>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] water filter
>>>
>>>> I am thinking about installing a water filter. Although we are on
>>>> municipal
>>>
>>>> water it sometimes is not clear and often has a strong chlorine smell.
> The
>>>> new refrigerator that will be delivered tomorrow has a water filter
>>>> installed. I have been thinking about placing one in the basement under
>>>> the
>>>
>>>> kitchen sink area. then run the lines to the cold water and for the ice
>>>> maker. Any suggestions on what kind to install. Doing a search there is
>>>> only about 3 million hits to read. I called some big box stores and they
>>>> have no real great suggestions. They have sediment filters starting for
>>>> $35
>>>
>>>> and on the net I found systems for several thousand dollars.
>>>> ---
>>>> Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational,
> inspirational
>>>> with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for
>>>> the blind.
>>>> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com
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