The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 18 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Roll over protection was: Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Re: Roll over protection was: Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Re: Roll over protection was: Re: Convertible top- Is this Re: Front tires sizes/ testing ABS thresholds/ was:Found an M3 Re: Your_opinion_please... Re: Your_opinion_please... Scams Car Update and Return Re: The Bug is biting Re: The Bug is biting E30 Central Locking
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:18:16 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Roll over protection was: Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good to know. I always wear my belt and insist that passengers do as well. Do you recall how tall the hoops were when deployed? I was picturing the car resting on the front of the hood and windshield/A-pillar which isn't much taller than my head, thus my skepticism about the effectiveness assuming some slack and/or give in the seat belts. On the other hand if the hoops are sufficiently taller than the A-pillar such that the car would rest upside down on the front of the hood and the hoops with some clearance between the top of the windshield and the ground that would allow you to hang in the belt a bit without hitting the ground. I guess that's probably the case although I'm having trouble envisioning how a sufficiently tall hoop would fit in the car when retracted. I dunno. Like you said, hopefully I'll never need to find out. Happens to be a slow day at work so I had some time to think about it. Brian -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm Reitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 9, 2004 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Convertible top- Is this right? Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian, I hope you never have to find out how effective the ROPS is :-). I have spoken with a guy (and seen pictures of the car) who rolled his 325iC with 3 passengers in it. The ROPS hoops popped out through the back window, as the top was up, and all four people were basically unscathed. They were wearing seat belts, of course. Malcolm '88 M5 '98 328i ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:26:49 -0500 From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Roll over protection was: Re: Convertible top- Is this right? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jeez...I am envisioning the hoop deploying and decapitating someone!? Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com > I hope you never have to find out how effective the ROPS is :-). I have > spoken with a guy (and seen pictures of the car) who rolled his 325iC > with 3 passengers in it. The ROPS hoops popped out through the back > window, as the top was up, and all four people were basically unscathed. > They were wearing seat belts, of course. > > Malcolm > '88 M5 > '98 328i ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:54:09 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Roll over protection was: Re: Convertible top- Is this Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Convertibles equipped with the Rollover system have rear headrests which the hoops sit behind. It would be pretty tough to get your head in the way of the hoop. Brian -----Original Message----- From: Alex Cagann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 9, 2004 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Roll over protection was: Re: [UUC] Convertible top- Is this right? Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeez...I am envisioning the hoop deploying and decapitating someone!? Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com > I hope you never have to find out how effective the ROPS is :-). I have > spoken with a guy (and seen pictures of the car) who rolled his 325iC > with 3 passengers in it. The ROPS hoops popped out through the back > window, as the top was up, and all four people were basically unscathed. > They were wearing seat belts, of course. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:35:55 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "jkerouac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Front tires sizes/ testing ABS thresholds/ was:Found an M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The new Goodyear F1 size is 245/35x17, your posting stated 235x35. I apologize for my mistake, I read the tire size incorrectly. All of my other comments related to the tire size are therefore inaccurate. I stand behind my other comments about the tire (Goodyear F1), the springs and the intake. Regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:40:28 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Your_opinion_please... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 2/9/04 6:12 PM, Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This 'scam' has been around for a while. I put it in quotes because you have > to throw all intelligence out the window to actually get taken. Well, not quite *all* intelligence. Most, maybe... <g> The scam relies on the fact that the buyer/scammer gives the seller a Cashier's Check, which the seller's bank will immediately credit to his account. Most people believe that a Cashier's Check is essentially the same as money, but that just ain't so. When the Cashier's Check turns out to be fake, and it will, the bank reverses the previous credit, but the mark has already paid over the difference and is left holding the bag. > Off the bat, it sounds completely ridiculous, they are going to send > you...someone they don't know or have never met, an extra such and such > dollars...usually thousands? Well that's the classic meaning of the term "Confidence Trick." It doesn't refer to the mark having confidence in the scammer, but to the scammer's setup where he appears to be trusting the mark - "Here, I trust you, hold my money." Then the fun begins... See for instance, the great little movie "House of Games" (Joe Mantegna, Lindsay Crouse; written and directed by David Mamet). > I am a car dealer and have had several people try this. I > say...excellent, send me a check, when the funds clear, we're cool...I'll > send you the difference. I never hear back from them. :-) I'll bet! Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:02:44 -0500 From: Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Your_opinion_please... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I get these al the time when I place the E28 in the online ads. ...anyone want to buy an 528e parts car... ...no really ;^) -Matt 1991 325iX 1986 528e 2005 Forester XT Neil Maller wrote: >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >on 2/9/04 6:12 PM, Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>This 'scam' has been around for a while. I put it in quotes because you have >>to throw all intelligence out the window to actually get taken. >> >> > >Well, not quite *all* intelligence. Most, maybe... <g> > >The scam relies on the fact that the buyer/scammer gives the seller a >Cashier's Check, which the seller's bank will immediately credit to his >account. Most people believe that a Cashier's Check is essentially the same >as money, but that just ain't so. When the Cashier's Check turns out to be >fake, and it will, the bank reverses the previous credit, but the mark has >already paid over the difference and is left holding the bag. > > > >>Off the bat, it sounds completely ridiculous, they are going to send >>you...someone they don't know or have never met, an extra such and such >>dollars...usually thousands? >> >> > >Well that's the classic meaning of the term "Confidence Trick." It doesn't >refer to the mark having confidence in the scammer, but to the scammer's >setup where he appears to be trusting the mark - "Here, I trust you, hold my >money." Then the fun begins... > >See for instance, the great little movie "House of Games" (Joe Mantegna, >Lindsay Crouse; written and directed by David Mamet). > > > >>I am a car dealer and have had several people try this. I >>say...excellent, send me a check, when the funds clear, we're cool...I'll >>send you the difference. I never hear back from them. :-) >> >> > >I'll bet! > >Neil >96 M3 > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 20:19:52 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Scams Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I had a guy from Nigeria email me about some wheels I had for sale. It was the exact same scam and even the awkward grammar were familiar, but for fun I corresponded w/ the guy for a couple of weeks. He finally sent me a check, which wasn't even a good forgery. Once I got the check, once more for giggles, I wrote to him telling him that I was arrested by the Treasury Department and needed bail money from him, you guessed it! Never got my bail money ;-). Some time they are going to leave just a little too much info that can be traced and..........I had about 3 or 4 addresses for his "client" and the "broker". Sorry for the waste of BW, but I couldn't resist telling my story when I read the other "victims" stories. Cheers, Evan This 'scam' has been around for a while. I put it in quotes because you have to throw all intelligence out the window to actually get taken. Off the bat, it sounds completely ridiculous, they are going to send you...someone they don't know or have never met, an extra such and such dollars...usually thousands? I am a car dealer and have had several people try this. I say...excellent, send me a check, when the funds clear, we're cool...I'll send you the difference. I never hear back from them. :-) Alex Cagann > > Thank you for providing me your opinion about this way of > transaction...? > > (Sounds bizarre to me...) > > > > Pat. > > > > (Thanks for your mail.I have made conclusive arrangements with my > > client and he has agreed to pay $4,100.He says he has instructed > > someone who is owing him $14,100 in Canada to send a check to > > you.After you have received the check and cashed it,you are > > required to deduct your $4,100 and refund the balance which will > > be used to offset shipping charges and other outstanding > > charges.The shipment will be handled by a prepaid shipper. > > > > In view of the above situation,you are required to provide for me > > your house mailing address as well as your contact telephone > > number because it will be sent through courier service. > > I await to hear from you soon. > > Regards,) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:16:56 -0600 From: "Celisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Car Update and Return Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well folks, thanks so much for everyones advice on my car. I took it back to the dealership today. You would not believe what I was told. Of course all you guys know, the car was wrecked and the steering was totally effected. Would you believe, my insurance Allstate would only repair what they saw. The tech men told me, that fought with Allstate telling them if they didn't fix, what ever the part was in the steering that was another extra 1,000 dollars, that it would not drive correctly. I read everything and checked the things that you guys mentioned, but now that they know that the car is not drivable, they are going to fix it. Why in the world didn't they do it right the first time. I've taken the car back to the shop " Moritz BMW" for the 3rd time. Just letting everyone know they sure didn't refuse to fix it. The tech got in the car and drove it, and noticed right away what I was saying. The car would not return from a turn, the insurance company refused to fix this, if I had another accident, I woud I would have sued Allstate, if I be living, if not, my family would have, because I told them of the problem. Thanks again for everyones advice, it was greatly appeciated. Celisa '99 328is ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 18:53:35 -0800 From: "Bora Akyol (BMW)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The Bug is biting Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Evo VIII if you can live with the wing and punk kids wanting to race you at every stop light. I got one in Rally Red and it is nice. The brembo brakes work well and the power is enough and revs to 7800 rpms. Bora ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 22:22:29 -0500 From: "Chris Pawlowicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The Bug is biting Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bora says > Evo VIII if you can live with the wing and punk kids wanting to race you at > every stop light. I got one in Rally Red and it is nice. The brembo brakes > work well and the power is enough and revs to 7800 rpms. one of our local bmw club members just got one (first one in Canada I think) and had it out at our winter driving school last weekend.. he was having a ton of fun shooting out rooster tails of snow from all the wheels as he flew around the corners sideways ;) and the engine sure sounds sweet he was having a bit of trouble keeping it on boost though - very finicky throttle - and kind of lurched through the tight icy sections.. (unlike the gentle ballet of the M3... and sideways Left.. and sideways Right.. and repeat) chris pawlowicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 14:26:18 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: E30 Central Locking Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know some of you are familiar with central locking issues and have struggled with fixing problems. Also, some of you may be aware that I have a 1989 325is that had a number of issues, a few of those related to central locking. Here is a recap of what it took to solve my central locking issues: Driver's side lock - It just plain didn't work. Locking was intermittent, double-locking didn't work, it was generally screwed up. Turns out, the lock lever was a little bent and had seen better days, the keys in the tumbler were shot and completely worn out, and the double locking spring was weak. Solution - a complete rebuild of the lock cylinder fixed all those problems. Trunk lock - It didn't do anything, the lock was seized. You could insert and remove your key, that is it, you couldn't turn the cylinder. I removed the lock and flushed it with brake clean and PB Blaster, working the lock with the key. I disassembled it (watch out for the spring loaded ball detent...mine shot across the shop...it isn't easy to find what you are looking for when you didn't see what shot out...that metal ball was smaller than the kind used in a BB gun and took a good bit of searching to find). After disassembling, regreasing, etc., I got it to work again. Passenger side lock - It didn't operate the central locks initially and was not impacted at all by the other locks (basically, you could lock and unlock from the inside, that is it). The cylinder didn't operate. I removed the lock from the door. The lever was fine as was the cylinder (I noted that this lever is much more robust than the driver's side which is just a bad design, too weak). I disassembled, cleaned and regreased anyway and the cylinder itself was fine. My attention turned to the inside of the door to the microswitch, catch and the central locking unit. Turns out after much testing of the electronics, that the central locking unit was unplugged (huh?), not what I had figured. Also, not easy to find until I reached around inside the door to find the wiring only to find it in the bottom of the door unplugged. I plugged it in and everything worked with the exception of the microswitch. Turns out, the switch is fine, but the bracket holding it in place was ! bent and the cylinder lever didn't make contact with the switch. The bracket appears to be made out of extremely soft metal and efforts to bend it into place resulted in it cracking. SO, I just need to replace this bracket and my locks will all be working 100%. Now, I just need to figure out how to fix the interior light delay next (along with a whole host of minor other issues). Hope this helps someone. Later, Rich - knows working on central locking issues isn't easy in an unheated garage in Ohio...average temps have been well below freezing. ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(11 messages) **********