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Subject: Re: [Care2002-entwickler] Global PID Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 00:36:02 +0100 From: Alexander H�lzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, first my question: Why should the PID contain information about country, hospital etc. ? Couldn't those informations be retrieved from a centralized PID-clearing server, mapping each PID to allowed information about its owner? I found an interesting article on identity management at the website of the open group about identity management: http://www.opengroup.org/dif/projects/im-scen/idmbs_1.pdf . The article is really interesting. It shows very clearly, that other organisations are still struggling with the identity problem as well. Among other things the DCE evironment of the Open Group provides a service for the generation of truely unique universal identifiers through a server based service. Unfortunately "open" does not mean "free". So there license fees for DCE range from zero (non-commercial, academic) to $15 Mio. for there commercial "DCE Cumulative Lifetime Cap" (!!) Here's some statement from their identity management site http://www.opengroup.org/projects/idm/: >> Can we develop a global framework for identity management in which the communities that an individual belongs to can operate - and cooperate - effectively, while maintaining the right of the individual to privacy, to dignity, and to be in control of his or her destiny? >> The Open Group, in co-operation with other bodies, is working for a global identity management framework. We are analysing the requirements. We will encourage the appropriate standards organizations to produce the standards that are needed. And we will help the industry to develop interoperable products to meet those standards. >> Our statement of the requirements for Identity Management is contained in our Identity management Business Scenario. >> Good Identity Management enables the right information to reach the right people. It is essential for Boundaryless Information Flow. Thanks Alexander H�lzel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elpidio Latorilla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "care2x announcement" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "care2x developers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "entwickler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: [Care2002-entwickler] Global PID Hi all, while preparing some documents for the 2nd generation Care2x, I remembered the initial idea of a global PID. This should be an ID for a person which must be unique globally. Does anyone know of any work on this, proposals, thesis, dissertations, or working protocols? I would be glad to know the links to the documents. Please let me know. Anyway, I noticed the VISA credit card system and its numbering system. Each number is global and is unique to an account, well, a person can have several accounts. But we can modify the idea to one-number-one-person system. Each number has 16 digits grouped in 4 digits: e.g. 6345 6655 0005 7789 To accomodate this, the pid field for care2x must be modified to 16 digits (which is very easy to do). Now, lets look further to putting some intelligence on the number: Lets say the first 4-digit group is exclusively for coding the country where the person was first registered. Should we use an ISO country numbering? I could not take the first 2 digits only because there are more than 100 countries, so lets take 4-digits. That would give us 9,999 possibilities which would mean many unused numbers. Also, to avoid problems with the 2-of-5 interlaced barcode format, the first digit should never be zero. So the number of the first person should look like this: 1001 0001 0000 0001 That would mean: country 1, hospital 1, person 1. The country coding should not be a problem, we just use the ISO standards. The second 4-digit group should be exclusive for coding the hospital in the country. This numbering should be done officially by some kind of official national standards commision (or something similar) of the country. The second group will allow for 9,999 hospitals in one country. Does anyone know of a country who has more than that number of hospitals? (or is likely to have more than that figure in the future?) The remaining 8 digits are to number the person. That will allow a maximum of 99,999,999 (almost 100 million) persons for each hospital. I admit the above is very simplistic. Please let me know of your opinion or own ideas. If VISA can do it for global credit system, why couldn't we for the healthcare system? Time for Care2x foundation to come? 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