Hopefully this is not taking this outside the interest of many on the list but:

I am curious to know the evidence on reduced nesting success in goshawks, in 
part because it is really important to know what such evidence would look like. 
 John, can you direct those of us who might want to follow up to publications, 
people, organizations?

Thanks,

Anne

On Jan 16, 2015, at 2:07 PM, John and Sue Gregoire wrote:

> Heartly concur John. Count me as a bander who has both noted this and had 
> research
> muddled by such exact descriptions.
> john
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> On Thu, January 15, 2015 16:03, John Confer wrote:
>> HI Folks,
>> 
>>     The barn door is open or the cat is out of the bag, BUT I HAVE A
>> CONCERN ABOUT DESCRIBING LOCATIONS OF N GOSHAWK WHEN THEY ACT SOMEWHAT
>> AS IF THEY HAD A TERRITORY. Northern Goshawk are known among banders who
>> climb to hawk nests to frequently abandon a nest, especially early in
>> the nesting cycle, although not so much after the young have
>> hatched.Individual birds can become accustomed to human disturbance at a
>> low level and provide an exception. Other birds that rarely see humans
>> may well abandon a nest if disturbed. At this time of year, they
>> probably haven't started laying and, even if the bird is considering
>> nesting nearby, at this time of the year the bird might just move away.
>> However, if they did start to nest and someone visited the well
>> described site a couple months from now, the bird might abandon eggs.
>> 
>>     I know there is an excitement in seeing a good bird, and it is very
>> nice to share providing a very good motivation to share a siting with
>> others, e.g., the Schofield Short-eared Owls, which do not seem to be at
>> all disturbed by humans watching them in a car. Other species of birds
>> may have reduced nesting success if people visit them, and goshawk are
>> known to be so affected. Discretion in individual circumstances is advised.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> On 1/15/2015 11:14 AM, Donna Scott wrote:
>>> Where is Foster Pond, please?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Donna Scott
>>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Joshua Snodgrass <cedarsh...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:cedarsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I went birding at Foster Pond this afternoon, because high twenties
>>>> feels like spring compared to the last few days. Past the frozen pond
>>>> and down Backbone trail I ventured into the brushy field to get a
>>>> better look at some waxwings when I flushed a Northern Goshawk from
>>>> low cover. Life Bird! She (I'm guessing based on the size) perched in
>>>> a small tree and posed for a long time. Excellent views. Adult with a
>>>> bright eyestripe. I took pictures until my hands and toes went numb.
>>>> She never flew away. As I was returning to the trail two Common
>>>> Ravens flew over calling. Awesome Day!
>>>> Photos:
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/123875591@N03/16096262487/in/photostream/
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/123875591@N03/15662257883/in/photostream/
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry I didn't post earlier, but I have a dumb phone.
>>>> Good birding!
>>>> Josh
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