If it does what it claims – incredibly impressive. The issue we have is there 
is no way to verify or validate the claims it is making.

The letter is a call and start of a conversation about how the ever-changing 
landscape of communication and publication of science should be.

-Stephanie Wankowicz
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It definitely is impressive but it also has clear limitations On 13 May 2024, 
at 15: 22, Sylvia Fanucchi <0000d0c4e77ae410-dmarc-request@ jiscmail. ac. uk> 
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It definitely is impressive but it also has clear limitations

On 13 May 2024, at 15:22, Sylvia Fanucchi 
<0000d0c4e77ae410-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:


You don't often get email from 0000d0c4e77ae410-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk. 
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Is it just me who is really impressed by it? Am I missing something?

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I tried it yesterday and I was really shocked by how fast it is. When I was 
preparing to submit my second job, the first one was already finished, which 
made me think that I was definitely doing something wrong. Probably I was...

Best wishes

Rafael Marques


On 13 May 2024 09:53, Harry Powell 
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Hi folks

This arrived in my inbox this morning, and I believe that it may provoke some 
discussion…

Wikipedia tells me: στέργει γὰρ οὐδεὶς ἄγγελον κακῶν ἐπῶν

Best wishes!

Harry

>    From: Stephanie Wankowicz <mullane.stepha...@gmail.com>
>    Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 3:31 PM
>    To: James Fraser <jaimefra...@gmail.com>; Pedro Beltrao 
> <pedrobelt...@gmail.com>; Benjamin Cravatt <crav...@scripps.edu>; Roland 
> Dunbrack <roland.dunbr...@gmail.com>; Anthony Gitter 
> <git...@biostat.wisc.edu>; Kresten Lindorff-Larsen <lindo...@bio.ku.dk>; 
> Sergey Ovchinnikov <s...@mit.edu>; Polizzi, Nicholas F. 
> <nicholasf_poli...@dfci.harvard.edu>; Brian Shoichet <bshoic...@gmail.com>
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>    Hello,
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>    As many of you, we were incredibly disappointed with the lack of code or 
> even executables accompanying the publication of AlphaFold3 in Nature. 
> AlphaFold3 was released without the means to test and use the software in a 
> high-throughput manner. This does not align with the principles of scientific 
> research, which rely on the ability of the community to evaluate, use, and 
> build upon existing work.
>
>
>
>    We have written a letter, which will be posted on Zenodo and submitted as 
> a Letter to the Editor in the coming days.
>
>
>
>    Please see the entire letter here. 
> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf6ioZPbxiDZy5h4qxo-bHa0XOTOxEYHObht0SX8EgwfPHY_g/viewform?usp=sf_link><https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf6ioZPbxiDZy5h4qxo-bHa0XOTOxEYHObht0SX8EgwfPHY_g/viewform?usp=sf_link*3E__;JQ!!LQC6Cpwp!ojUwuRRzsCarUF-wwnVWIQtQbTonf10zBas4dHDOMDcNF3qWUSO99i3QLLB39nBZ8NEnc9RG_drv9T5at5d7AqTp0-CX$>
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>    Additionally, a PDF version of the letter can be found here 
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>    Thank you,
>
>
>
>    Stephanie Wankowicz, UCSF
>
>    Pedro Beltrao, ETH
>    Benjamin Cravatt, Scripps
>    Roland Dunbrack, FCCC
>    Anthony Gitter, UW Madison
>    Kresten Lindorff-Larsen, Copenhagen
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