On Aug 9, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:

> On 8/9/2011 10:44 AM, Craig White wrote:
>> 
>>> There's probably a way to add apache to that group with a configuration
>>> on the local machine so it doesn't have to query your ADS/NMB server.
>>> Not sure about the details but the docs at http://samba.org/samba/docs/
>>> are invaluable.
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>> I'm quite sure that if all the files are owned by the 'department_a' group 
>> and 'readable' by user apache as I have indicated, they should be with the 
>> given configuration, there's absolutely no need to do any mucking with local 
>> users or groups at all.
>> 
>> The reality is that this machine will query AD/NMB server each time a 
>> non-local user does anything on this system (read or write) and the only 
>> thing that will lighten that load is something like NSCD (good luck with 
>> that - not always a great option with samba).
> 
> Really? I thought samba would map a connection to a uid at connect time.
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indeed it does but that doesn't mean that the system won't keep polling the 
authoritative account info source.
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> 
>> There are two important features of what I proposed...
>> - sgid means that all files/folders created within will always belong to 
>> department_a group
> 
> You can also do a 'force group' in the samba config for a share instead 
> of or besides the sgid directory.
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true but:
1 - force anything seems to be a little heavy handed
2 - using sgid means that anyone using a shell will also create 
files/directories with the same group - using 'force group' only has 
implications for samba connections. Using sgid encompasses all methods of 
access.
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> 
>> - create mask 664&  directory mask 775 means that each file&  directory 
>> created - group will always get rw privileges and everyone else (ie user 
>> apache) has 'read' privileges.
>> 
>> The only weakness of this theory as I see it, is that there very well may be 
>> files - perhaps config files that you wouldn't want anyone to be able to see 
>> and you probably will have to have some<Directory>  restrictions in Apache's 
>> configuration to prevent web users from accessing them.
> 
> There are also likely situations where the web server needs write 
> access, although those cases should be handled carefully or avoided 
> where possible.

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indeed

Craig
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